An alternative to remailer shutdowns (fwd)

jim bell jimbell at pacifier.com
Wed May 22 22:29:29 PDT 1996


At 12:40 PM 5/22/96 -0600, David Rosoff wrote:

>>But even "knowingly" needs to be carefully defined.  A remailer operator 
>>today KNOWS that his system COULD be used for illegal activities; he merely 
>>doesn't know that they are, currently.  I think that the definition should 
>>be so narrow that it is impossible for a third party (or the government 
>>itself)  to incriminate the remailer operator by having his system forward 
>>arguably illegal or copyright-violating material.
>>
>>
>>Jim Bell
>>jimbell at pacifier.com
>
>Can the same sort of standards as per the U.S. CDA be applied? The first
>draft of the
>CDA would have held ISP's responsible for, e.g., porn transmitted using their 
>services. Isn't this the same sort of thing - that is, that remailer
>operators provide a service, and they cannot be held responsible for people who abuse that
>service? I think that this line of thought is reasonable.

"Reasonable," yes.  But remailers provide a service that governments won't 
consider politically popular; ISP's provide a nominally popular service.  
The government will find a way to interpret the actions of a remailer 
entirely differnetly than that of an ISP.   Sigh.



Jim Bell
jimbell at pacifier.com






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