Can We Cut the Crap?

Ed Carp [khijol SysAdmin] erc at dal1820.computek.net
Mon Jan 1 10:40:19 PST 1996


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> "Ed Carp [khijol SysAdmin]" <erc at dal1820.computek.net> writes:
> > > There are people on this mailing list who appear to have very little techni
> > > expertise (e.g., can't figure out how an anonymous remailer works), contrib
> > > nothing but silly puerile flames to the discussion, and whose harassment ha
> > > caused Fred to stop contributing. They've deprived Fred of his right to spr
> > > and readers like me of our right to listen. This is censorship by bullying.
> >
> > Now there you are wrong.  No one forced Fred to stop posting to the list
> > (I noticed that I just got a posting from him just yesterday, so he may
> > have stopped since then), but no one deprived Fred of his right to speak.
> > I don't see Eric Hughes standing up and saying "Fed, stop posting to the
> > list", and I certainly note that his postings are getting through to the
> > list.  So, your statements regarding people harassing Fred, causing him to
> > stop posting, etc., are just eyewash and an attempt to emotionally
> > manipulate your audience by calling it "censorship".
> 
> Ed, I've met Eric Hughes.  You're no Eric Hughes.

So?  How do you know?  Your comment made absolutely no sense at all.

> The crypto people on this mailing list have asked people repeatedly to
> curtail non-crypto-related postings (most recently, Tim May, who started
> this thread). This is not censorship. The sliencing of Fred Cohen by a lynch
> mob of non-technicals (who, e.g., send e-mail twice) is a disturbing example
> of censorship.

Crap.  If Fred doesn't want to post, that's his choice (as he has 
indicated in private mail to me), but it's not your call to conclude that 
he is being "censored".
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