Unknown address (fwd) tigerteam???

Ray Arachelian sunder at dorsai.dorsai.org
Fri Aug 9 13:59:34 PDT 1996


What's the story with the tiger.team at tigerteam.org bounces?  I've been 
getting quite a few of these from time to time, once when sending a message
Sterndark.  In this case this message wasn't addressed to 
cypherpunks at toad.com, and it was a private message to Adam Back 
aba at dcs.ex.ac.uk...  I couldn't do a traceroute to dcs.ex.ac.uk since 
it's an unknown host to my system...  So perhaps, given the hit below, 
this is by uucp, but even so, should the bounced message come from 
tigerteam??

Is tigerteam somehow snarfing up messages they shouldn't?  Even if 
they're a uucp gateway to England, shouldn't the bounce come from 
dcs.ex.ac.uk and not from tigerteam/netcom???

% whois shows this for them:

 whois tigerteam.org
Tiger Team Buddhist Information Network (TIGERTEAM-DOM)
   347 Warwick Suite #101
   Oakland, CA 94610

   Domain Name: TIGERTEAM.ORG

   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Macko, Jeffrey  (JM67)  jmacko at TIGERTEAM.ORG
      (510) 268-1012

   Record last updated on 29-Mar-94.
   Record created on 10-Sep-93.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   UUCPNS1.NETCOM.COM           163.179.3.221
   UUCPNS2.NETCOM.COM           163.179.3.222


The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information
(Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's).
Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.


Looking at the headers for the bounced message I see:

>From postmaster at tigerteam.org  Fri Aug  9 07:52:01 1996
Return-Path: postmaster at tigerteam.org
Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp12.netcom.com [163.179.3.12]) by 
ian.dor
sai.org (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA09408 for 
<sunder at dorsai.dorsai.org>; Fri
, 9 Aug 1996 07:52:00 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from tigerteam.org by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP 
(8.6.12/SMI-4.1)
        id EAA15108; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 04:42:10 -0700
Received: by tigerteam.org (wcGATE v4)
        id 37297W Fri,  9 Aug 1996 10:33:39 GMT
From: postmaster at tigerteam.org (Postmaster)
Subject: Unknown address
Date: Wed,  7 Aug 1996 13:54:32 GMT
Message-Id: <96080903333941546 at tigerteam.org>
Organization: Tiger Team Info Net:  Modem (510) 523-5300
To: sunder at dorsai.dorsai.org
Status: RO
X-Status:

The user this message was addressed to does not exist at this site.  Please
verify the name and domain in the original message that follows.
Message was addressed to: TIGER.TEAM at tigerteam.org



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 + ^ + |  Ray Arachelian |FL|       KAOS KERAUNOS KYBERNETOS      |==/|\==
  \|/  |sunder at dorsai.org|UL|__Nothing_is_true,_all_is_permitted!_|=/\|/\=
<--+-->| --------------- |CG|What part of 'Congress shall make no |=\/|\/=
  /|\  | Just Say "No" to|KA|law abridging the freedom of speech' |==\|/==
 + v + | Janet Reno & GAK|AK|        do you not understand?       |=======   
===================http://www.dorsai.org/~sunder/=========================
 Key Escrow Laws are the mating calls of those who'd abuse your privacy!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 13:54:32 GMT
From: Postmaster <postmaster at tigerteam.org>
To: sunder at dorsai.dorsai.org
Subject: Unknown address

The user this message was addressed to does not exist at this site.  Please
verify the name and domain in the original message that follows.
Message was addressed to: TIGER.TEAM at tigerteam.org

                     ----- Original Message follows -----

From: Ray Arachelian <sunder at dorsai.dorsai.org>
To: Adam Back <aba at dcs.ex.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 14:06:45 -0400 (edt)
Subject: Re: crypto CD source

On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Adam Back wrote:

> 
> Cypherpunks archive?
> 
>       http://infinity.nus.sg/cypherpunks/
> 
> The earlier archives were at www.hks.net, try mailing cactus at hks.net.


I've a bunch of .gz files for the filtered cypherpunks list I run, they 
should contain stuff as far back as last year.  How would I get these to 
ya?

==========================================================================
 + ^ + |  Ray Arachelian |FL|       KAOS KERAUNOS KYBERNETOS      |==/|\==
  \|/  |sunder at dorsai.org|UL|__Nothing_is_true,_all_is_permitted!_|=/\|/\=
<--+-->| --------------- |CG|What part of 'Congress shall make no |=\/|\/=
  /|\  | Just Say "No" to|KA|law abridging the freedom of speech' |==\|/==
 + v + | Janet Reno & GAK|AK|        do you not understand?       |=======   
===================http://www.dorsai.org/~sunder/=========================
 Key Escrow Laws are the mating calls of those who'd abuse your privacy!








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