Linking = Showing = Transferring?

Timothy C. May tcmay at got.net
Thu Sep 14 10:24:28 PDT 1995



I posted this to the Cyberia mailing list, but think it has some
implications for Cypherpunks as well. And, I'm responding to Duncan
Frissell, one of our own.

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>
>To:cyberia-l at warthog.cc.wm.edu
>From:tcmay at got.net (Timothy C. May)
>Subject:Linking = Showing = Transferring?
>
>
>As good a chance as any to extend my "showing = telling" point...
>
>At 9:32 AM 9/14/95, Duncan Frissell wrote:
>
>>And my favorite: "What if the student merely includes *links* to
>>the above on his web page?"  Of course racist images/messages are
>>always and everywhere as legal as church on a Sunday although they
>>may carry civil liability in limited cases -- not a problem for
>>judgment-proof students.
>...
>>"Is the URL the page itself? --- Unanswered philosophical questions
>>of the wired age."
>
>_Linking_ is effectively _showing_, given the point-and-click mechanics of
>hypertext. This is a situation anticipated by authors (e.g. Ted Nelson),
>but is now coming to the fore.
>
>Granted, providing a link is not the same as actually _including_ the
>material the link points to, but it is very, very close. Arguably, the
>same.
>
>(Example: I create a home page with links to many images that are child
>pornography by U.S. standards. The images themselves may be initially
>stored in URLs that are in countries with different standards for consent,
>e.g., Denmark or Thailand. Have I violated the child porn laws? Arguably,
>I am "making available" these materials, but all I have done is to provide
>the _pointers_. The readers of my home page are the actual downloaders,
>not me.)
>
>I can imagine rebuttals to this position, arguing that an author who
>includes URLs to other places is doing nothing different than an author
>who includes footnoted references to other works (and surely we all agree
>that footnotes are not copyright infringements of any sort).
>
>However, look at how the Web is being used. Home pages that have
>compilations of interesting things are effectively the works! It is as if
>the original materials are being stored on those home pages themselves!
>
>There is _technological_ and _propertarian_ fix to this: controlled or
>paid access to the URLs under question. The "gatekeeper" function shifts
>to the actual material under question.
>
>But there are many new questions.
>
>And Duncan's specific point remains:
>
>-- is it a violation of pornography laws (perhaps campus rules) to have a
>home page with links to URLs containing pornographic images?
>
>-- is it a violation of _child pornography_ laws to have a home page with
>links to URLs containing child pornography images? (The URLs could be
>offshore, perhaps in jurisdictions where the age of consent is much
>different than in the U.S., e.g., Denmark or Thailand.)
>
>-- is it a violation of national security laws to have a home page with
>links to URLs containing national defense secrets? (The URLs could be
>offshore.)
>
>-- is it a violation of copyright/patent laws to have home pages with
>pointers to protected material? (Songs, written works, images, inventions,
>etc.)
>
>And so on....
>
>--Tim May

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