This really isn't a cypherpunks topic any longer... Jim Grubs (W8GRT) writes: > Alan Horowitz <alanh at infi.net> writes: > > > measures, etc, etc. The other side *has already won* the terror war, > > merely by virtue of having set the agenda, and making us spin in tighter > > and tighter circles - reacting, not initiating. > > What, then?