REMAILER: really anon?

remail at tamsun.tamu.edu remail at tamsun.tamu.edu
Fri Jul 9 14:21:52 PDT 1993


If you can trace the origin (sender) of this message please send me mail
personally rather than to the list.  I'm using my favorite remailer here
and I want to make sure it's working right.  

I have sent mail to the below sites as a test for anonymous remailing
returns and to see what headers I get back. It has been maybe 4 days now
since I began this experiment, some of the sites below have still not
remailed my test message.

My main curiosity in this quest is to determine what each header will look
like when the mail is recieved.  I think this is important in determining
which remailer to use.  

The below is the list of remailers with the "unique header to remailer" info
below each site number.  

If you wish to discuss this matter further, please send a follow up
message to the cypher list with your address included and "Re: Unique
header".  I'm really not too concerned about remaining anonymous (that is,
I will come out of hiding), I just want to see if this scheme is really
airtight! 

Thanks!
-z

 **Please take note of remailer 12 of this list.**

The typical header received looks similar to the below:
(I have removed the date, time, etc. to protect my privacy) 

>From rebma!remailer at kksys.mn.org Thu Jul x 00:38:01 1993
Received: by ahost.some.school.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0/cc-ix.mc-1.5)
	id AA02491; Thu, x Jul 93 19:00:54 -0500
Received: from kksys.mn.org by uum1.mn.org with bsmtp
	(Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0oE6Du-00007JC; Thu,x Jul 93 00:21 CDT
Received: from rebma by kksys.mn.org with uucp
	(Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0oE5jG-0007TsC; Thu,x Jul 93 00:50 CDT
Received: by rebma.rebma.mn.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #1)
	id m0oE6nS-0002CzC; Thu, 8 Jul 93 17:58 PDT
Message-Id: <m0oE6nS-0002CzC at rebma.rebma.mn.org>
Date: Thu, x Jul 93 17:58 PDT
To: me at myhost.some.school.edu
From: nobody at rebma.rebma.mn.org
Subject: 9
Remailed-By: Mr. Nobody <remailer at rebma.mn.org>
Status: O


=========This is where the list of remailers begins===========

*** Please keep in mind that in the below I included only the "unique to
*** remailer" parts of the header.***

 1: nowhere at bsu-cs.bsu.edu 

From: Anonymous <nowhere at bsu-cs.bsu.edu>
To: omitted
X-Remailed-By: Anonymous <nowhere at bsu-cs.bsu.edu>
X-Ttl: 0
X-Notice: This message was forwarded by a software-
	  automated anonymous remailing service.

 2: hh at cicada.berkeley.edu 

From: nobody at cicada.berkeley.edu

 3: hh at pmantis.berkeley.edu 

No response after 4 days

 4: hh at soda.berkeley.edu 

From: nobody at soda.berkeley.edu
Remailed-By: Eric Hollander <hh at soda.berkeley.edu>

 5: 00x at uclink.berkeley.edu 

From: nobody at uclink.berkeley.edu
Remailed-By: Tommy the Tourist <tommy at out>

 6: hal at alumni.caltech.edu 

From: nobody at alumni.cco.caltech.edu
Comments: This message is NOT from the person listed in the From
 line.  It is from an automated software remailing service operating at
 that address.  Please report problem mail to <hal at alumni.caltech.edu>.

 7: ebrandt at jarthur.claremont.edu 

From: nobody at eli-remailer
Remailed-By: Eli Brandt <ebrandt at jarthur.Claremont.EDU>
Source-Info:  From (or Sender) name not authenticated.

 8: phantom at mead.u.washington.edu 

No response after 4 days

 9: remailer at rebma.mn.org (this reply took almost 3+ days!)

From: nobody at rebma.rebma.mn.org
Remailed-By: Mr. Nobody <remailer at rebma.mn.org>

10: elee7h5 at rosebud.ee.uh.edu 

From: nobody at rosebud.ee.uh.edu

11: hfinney at shell.portal.com 

From: nobody at shell.portal.com
Comments: This message is NOT from the person listed in the From
 line.  It is from an automated software remailing service operating at
 that address.  Please report problem mail to <hfinney at shell.portal.com>.

12: remail at tamsun.tamu.edu 

From: remail at tamsun.tamu.edu
Remailed-By: Anonymous <remail at tamsun.tamu.edu>

Received: by tamsun.tamu.edu id AA04104
  (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for you at yourhost); Tue, 6 Jul 93 04:15:57 -0500

you at yourhost = your address! ...really!

13: remail at tamaix.tamu.edu 

From: remail at tamsun.tamu.edu
Remailed-By: Anonymous <remail at tamsun.tamu.edu>

14: remailer at utter.dis.org 

Received: by soda.berkeley.edu (5.65/KAOS-1)
	id AA13859; Tue, 6 Jul 93 03:09:09 -0700
Received: by merde.dis.org (4.1/SMI-4.2)
	id AA04354; Tue, 6 Jul 93 03:11:48 PDT
From: nobody at dis.org
Remailed-By: remailer bogus account <remailer at utter.dis.org>

15: remail at extropia.wimsey.com 

No response after 4 days


NOTES: 
#1-#5		no encryption of remailing requests
#6-#14		support encrypted remailing requests
#15		special - header and message must be encrypted together
#9,#14,#15	introduce larger than average delay (not direct connect)
#9,#14,#15      running on privately owned machines






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