Plenary session in GGF14
Fred Maciel
Fred.Maciel at hds.com
Thu Apr 21 20:03:52 CDT 2005
Geoffrey, Julie,
I can say that there is a "management" community in the GGF, which
was centered in the CMM-WG and the CGS-WG. These WGs have become the
Resource Management design team in the OGSA, and management will be an
integral part of the OGSA, not an afterthought, which should become
clearer as the OGSA specs become concrete. We hope that a community
session in GGF14 will raise the awareness of management within GGF (more
precisely, of standard forms of management, instead of "ad-hoc
management using students as argents"). Showing stuff working will also
help to make people understand that it's real. This kind of education is
the objective of the session that we are requesting. The details of how
this session is done, and the style to apply to it, will depend on the
format, and I'd like to hear the details about it later from you.
Anyway, please consider this as a formal request for one of the
community sessions. I'd be grateful if you could for now just
acknowledge this request.
Finally: when will you have an idea of the date of this session (if
accepted)? The WSDM participants have crowded schedules, and knowing the
dates early helps getting people to commit.
Thanks in advance,
Fred Maciel
OGSA-WG RM design team leader
ex-CMM-WG co-chair
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heather Kreger [mailto:kreger at us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:04 AM
> To: gcf at indiana.edu
> Cc: d.snelling at fle.fujitsu.com; Fred Maciel; gcf at indiana.edu;
> hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com; Craig Lee; Steve Crumb; Julie
> Wulf-Knoerzer
> Subject: Re: Plenary session in GGF14
>
>
> Hi Geoffrey,
> Sounds we might have a match then, the WSDM TC would like to
> propose a session to demonstrate the use of the WSDM
> specifications between several vendors. This will include,
> necessarily, demonstrating how WS-RF and WS-Notifications are
> used as part of WSDM.
>
> Do you see these 'community' sessions as being similar in
> attendance and scheduling as the plenary sessions usually
> are? We'd like the opportunity to reach out to a broad range
> of GGF members.
>
> What do we, WSDM, need to do?
>
> Heather Kreger
> STSM, Web Services Lead Architect for SWG Emerging Technologies
> Author of "Java and JMX: Building Manageable Systems"
> kreger at us.ibm.com
> 919-543-3211 (t/l 441) cell:919-496-9572
>
>
>
>
> Geoffrey Fox <gcf at grids.ucs.indiana.edu>
>
> 04/18/2005 11:31 PM
> Please respond to
> gcf
>
> To
> Fred Maciel <Fred.Maciel at hds.com>
> cc
> Steve Crumb <scrumb at ggf.org>, d.snelling at fle.fujitsu.com,
> Heather Kreger/Raleigh/IBM at IBMUS,
> hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com, gcf at indiana.edu, Julie
> Wulf-Knoerzer <wulf at ggf.org>, Craig Lee <lee at aero.org>
> Subject
> Re: Plenary session in GGF14
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Please tell me if I can help -- We are trying to put together a set of
> 45/90 minute vignettes that
> together tell us about Grids and Communities of the future.
> People interested in managed enterprise Grids (my naive view of WSDM)
> are certainly a
> community we are interested in supporting and highlighting
>
> Steve Crumb wrote:
>
> > Fred,
> >
> > The GGF14 "plenary" is more of a "community track", highly
> focused on
> > high-end research and technology innovation subject matter.
> Geoffrey
> > Fox (gcf at indiana.edu) and Julie Wulf-Knoerzer (wulf at ggf.org) are the
> > two you should contact. There was a recent email (from me) with a
> > Call for Participation. It's also on the website:
> > http://www.ggf.org/Meetings/GGF14/GGF14.htm.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > At 06:27 PM 4/18/2005, Fred Maciel wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Steve,
> >> (Cc: Dave, Hiro, Heather)
> >>
> >> I'm being told that, to get a plenary (kind of)
> session in GGF14 I
> >> have to contact the program committee. Is that correct?
> Who should I
> >> contact?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >> Fred Maciel
> >> Hitachi
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Fred Maciel
> >> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:18 PM
> >> To: 'd.snelling at fle.fujitsu.com'; 'kreger at us.ibm.com'
> >> Cc: 'hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com'
> >> Subject: Planning WSDM activities in GGF14
> >>
> >> David, Heather
> >> Cc: Hiro
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> David: we just had a successful WSDM interop in the last three
> >> days, and yesterday we discussed what the WSDM TC should
> do in GGF14. If
> >> I got everything correctly there are some things that we want to do
> >> (Heather: correct me if I'm wrong. And also read the
> announcement in the
> >> end of the e-mail):
> >>
> >> (1) We want like get a plenary kind of session ("invited
> talks" below?)
> >> to give a simple introduction of what WSDM is and to show the stuff
> >> working. It should be more or less the same components
> that we had in
> >> the interop (Web service, Blackberry, server), with an improved
> >> scenario. This will target the GGF as a whole. Notice that I'm not
> >> proposing a tutorial or a workshop -- these are usually in separate
> >> days, and few people would show up (the 1-day tutorial that the CIM
> >> folks gave, with two or three participants only, is a good
> example of
> >> what I want to avoid).
> >>
> >> (2) We want to do a normal GGF session to explain things
> in more detail,
> >> as we did in Hawaii. This would target the people interested in
> >> management in the GGF. I can book that one as a OGSA-WG RM
> design team
> >> session -- no special bureaucracy needed.
> >>
> >> (3) We are thinking about doing a face-to-face in Chicago.
> Heather: now
> >> I remember that if we host it in GGF, the WSDM TC members
> would have to
> >> pay GGF registration fees. We got a discount in Hawaii, but now I'm
> >> wondering if we should host it somewhere else in Chicago.
> Say, Argonne?
> >> (Argonne is very boring but very cheap).
> >>
> >> (4) Some people were thinking about getting a booth.
> Heather: did we
> >> decide to do this?
> >>
> >> David: who do we have to talk to in GGF to get (1), and to see the
> >> availability and fees for (3)?
> >>
> >> Heather: who do we need to talk to in OASIS? Jamie Clark?
> >>
> >> Both: in fact, do we move this forward as a WSDM-only
> thing, or include
> >> OASIS, or do it as OASIS?
> >>
> >> BTW, feel free to forward this e-mail.
> >>
> >> That's all for now, just to get the ball rolling. Need to
> do this soon,
> >> since GGF is often first-come first-serve.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >> Fred Maciel.
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Call for Community Participation
> >> GGF14
> >> June 26-29, 2005
> >> Chicago, Illinois USA
> >>
> >> The primary focus of GGF14 will be the Working and Research Group
> >> sessions.
> >> Groups will focus on the continued development of shared
> approaches,
> >> grid
> >> specifications and best practices for grids. Several
> critical drafts
> >> will
> >> be discussed and advanced toward publication during this event.
> >>
> >> In addition to these group sessions, GGF will offer a
> series of 30-60
> >> minute invited talks and panels on the current and future status of
> >> Grids
> >> in different communities such as sectors of research
> (e.g., Astronomy)
> >> and
> >> industry (e.g, Telecommunications). New areas such as
> education are
> >> also
> >> solicited. This "community track" seeks to build new and strengthen
> >> existing communities of interest in GGF. Both new and existing
> >> communities
> >> are encouraged to submit a brief abstract for presentation in this
> >> community track. GGF14 attendees will gain unique insights from
> >> applications and technology experts discussing innovative
> approaches to
> >> deploying and using grids. A community track overview document and
> >> slides
> >> will be posted on the GGF14 website.
> >>
> >> GGF also welcomes proposals for traditional workshops to be held at
> >> GGF14. Proposals will be evaluated by essentially the same process
> >> (GROC)
> >> as in previous GGF meetings. Please email
> communities at ggf.org for more
> >> information if you are interested in proposing a GGF14 Workshop.
> >>
> >> The community activities described above may run in
> parallel with other
> >> GGF
> >> activities but every attempt will be made in scheduling these to
> >> minimize
> >> unnecessary clashes.
> >>
> >> Attendee feedback and participation will be helpful in shaping the
> >> community activities for GGF15, which will be held on
> October 3-6 in
> >> Boston. Please send us your opinions!
> >>
> >> GGF COMMUNITY ACTIVITY KEY DATES & DEADLINES
> >> Workshop Proposal submission deadline - May 6, 2005
> >> Community Track Abstract submission deadline - May 11, 2005
> >> Acceptance notification - May 16, 2005
> >> Community Track slide deadline - June 17, 2005
> >> Workshop Summary document deadline - TBD (post-GGF14)
> >>
> >> All proposals, comments and questions should be sent to
> >> communities at ggf.org.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Steve Crumb
> >> Executive Director, Global Grid Forum
> >> +1 630-252-8610 (Office)
> >> +1 630-915-3324 (Cell)
> >> scrumb at ggf.org
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve Crumb
> > Executive Director, Global Grid Forum
> > +1 630-252-8610 (Office)
> > +1 630-915-3324 (Cell)
> > scrumb at ggf.org
> >
>
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