[cddlm] RE: CDL schema/API

Milojicic, Dejan S (HP Labs) dejan.milojicic at hp.com
Tue Feb 21 10:17:39 CST 2006


Hi Mumtaz,

Also feel free to post questions to the CDDLM mailing list (you need to
join in order to post). Chances are someone from the four teams will
reply to you. I have cc-ed the list on this reply.

Thanks,

Dejan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Loughran, Steve 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:15 AM
> To: 'Mumtaz Siddiqui'; 'Alex Villazon'
> Cc: Milojicic, Dejan S (HP Labs)
> Subject: RE: CDL schema/API
> 
>  
> Everything is under SCM; see 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/deployment for stuff to check out.
> 
> -you will need a prerelease of Ant1.7 to build the JARs, grab 
> one from 
> 	http://people.apache.org/~stevel/dist/
>  if you don't want to build one yourself
> 
> -We also build nightly on apache gump; if your project also 
> has a public CVS or SVN repository, you can get added to the 
> Gump and so catch any changes in CDDLM or any other Java dependency.
> 
> Regarding the GLARE language versus CDL, there is some appeal 
> to Glare. Indeed, the Ant dev team is always bemused when 
> people use it as the reference language for workflows; yours 
> is probably the third such version, following on from 
> GridAnt, and Sun's  XML Pipeline language 
> (http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/NOTE-xml-pipeline-20020228/). One 
> thing that Ant does model well is the notion of files, paths 
> and directories, though even there its model of resources is 
> weak because the lack of unity across the many groups of 
> things that you can use (hence ant1.7's refactoring to have 
> an abstract ResourceSet as the parent of all groupings). 
> 
> CDL tries to be more abstract, but personally, file systems 
> are so important to deployment/configuration that its 
> important to have a good way to model them. We end up having 
> components which do nothing but map a platform independent 
> filename into a platform-specific one, setting a lazy 
> attribute to the final, absolute value at deployment time. 
> 
> 
> 
> Tschuss,
> 	-Steve
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Milojicic, Dejan S (HP Labs)
> > Sent: 21 February 2006 14:08
> > To: Mumtaz Siddiqui; scrumb at ggf.org
> > Cc: Loughran, Steve; Alex Villazon
> > Subject: RE: CDL schema/API
> > 
> > Hi Mumtaz,
> > 
> > Sorry for the confusion, I was suggesting that you talk to Steve 
> > Loughran (cc-ed), not Steve Crumb.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Dejan.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mumtaz Siddiqui [mailto:mumtaz at dps.uibk.ac.at]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:55 AM
> > > To: scrumb at ggf.org
> > > Cc: dejan at hpl.hp.com; Alex Villazon
> > > Subject: CDL schema/API
> > > 
> > > Dear Steve Crumb,
> > > 
> > > I presented my work about GLARE in first session of CDDLM 
> at GGF16. 
> > > GLARE provides XML based software component description and
> > automatic
> > > deployments framework.
> > > 
> > > Currently we are using simple XML documents for software 
> component 
> > > descriptions, but as Dr. Dejan Milojicic suggested, we
> > would like to
> > > use CDL for descriptions and deployment specifications
> > sometime later.
> > > 
> > > I could not find CDL schema and APIs (including Java stubs)
> > on CDDLM
> > > homepage.
> > > May I request for a copy of schema as well as APIs?
> > > 
> > > Thanks with best regards
> > > mumtaz
> > > 
> > > --
> > > http://dps.uibk.ac.at/~mumtaz
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 





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