[cddlm] RE: Session at GGF between CDDLM and related SRM groups, DRMAA, GRAAP, and JSDL

[Milojicic, Dejan S]

Hi,

This is a reminder that the session dedicated to meeting between CDDLM
and other working groups within ex-SRM and current Management technical
areas will be held today at 9am at Regent#1 conference room. All chairs
and members of other WGs are invited.

Looking forward to talking to you. As a reminder we already have had
dedicated sessions with OGSA EMS, ACS, and WSDM groups and in each case
it was very useful.

Thanks,

Dejan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milojicic, Dejan S 
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 9:32 AM
> To: 'Andreas Haas'
> Cc: Hrabri Rajic; asm100 at doc.ic.ac.uk; darren at pulsipher.org; 
> ali at epcc.ed.ac.uk; pruyne at hpl.hp.com; v.sander at fz-juelich.de; 
> Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de
> Subject: RE: Session at GGF between CDDLM and related SRM 
> groups, DRMAA, GRAAP, and JSDL
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks to all who replied, I will go ahead and a request a 
> CDDLM session on this topic, specifying other groups as 
> preferred non-conflict. Wrt BES (Jim brought this up), I 
> agree that we are related and I am in the process of talking 
> to them about a joint session since the last GGF. I would 
> prefer that we address our mutual relationship within our 
> technical area (even if it is going to change soon) prior to 
> talking to BES as a group of WGs. Bringing them in right now 
> may be too much.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dejan. 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andreas Haas [mailto:Andreas.Haas at Sun.COM]
> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:52 AM
> > To: Milojicic, Dejan S
> > Cc: Hrabri Rajic; asm100 at doc.ic.ac.uk; darren at pulsipher.org; 
> > ali at epcc.ed.ac.uk; pruyne at hpl.hp.com; v.sander at fz-juelich.de; 
> > Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de
> > Subject: Re: Session at GGF between CDDLM and related SRM groups, 
> > DRMAA, GRAAP, and JSDL
> > 
> > Hi Dejan,
> > 
> > I agree such a talk is reasonable and will try to participate.
> > I just submitted DRMAA WG session and specified overlap with CDDLM 
> > sessions should be prevented.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Andreas
> > 
> > On Wed, 25 May 2005, Milojicic, Dejan S wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This email goes to the chairs of DRMAA, GRAAP, and JSDL. 
> > CDDLM groups
> > > is interested in holding a session between our four 
> groups. We have 
> > > close to completed all our planned specs in he area of
> > configuration
> > > description, deployment, and lifecycle management, and we
> > are moving
> > > towards reference implementations for the GGF in Fall. 
> This is the 
> > > good time for us to discuss with you how we relate and if we are 
> > > mutually compliant. We had some ongoing informal 
> discussions in the 
> > > past, this time I would like to schedule a session only for this 
> > > purpose. I will do so if you are interested. Please comment
> > asap so that I can request a slot in a timely manner.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Dejan.
> > >
> > >
> >


 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milojicic, Dejan S 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 4:16 PM
> To: 'Hiro Kishimoto'; 'John Tollefsrud'
> Cc: 'Keisuke Fukui'; pete at ziu.net; 'Thomas Studwell'
> Subject: RE: Session at GGF between CDDLM and related SRM 
> groups, DRMAA, GRAAP, and JSDL (fwd)
> 
> Hi Hiro and John,
> 
> Thanks for your feedback!
> 
> > Hi John and Dejan,
> > 
> > Yes, it is GREAT idea.
> > Is it possible to add ACS-WG to this cross-WG session?
> 
> Certainly, although I think that these two groups have much 
> more in common and I prefer that in addition we stick to our 
> already planned 1:1 session ACS-CDDLM. Now that I think back, 
> I went over all SRM groups listed on the Web site and that is 
> the only reason I missed ACS, but as I said, we are already 
> in the process of talking directly to each other.
> 
> Since you already raised the issue of other groups 
> attendance, how can we arrange to have BES attend this 
> session or should I schedule a separate session for BES only? 
> Also, can we attend one of the OGSA sessions prior to GGF to 
> present where we are with CDDLM, this is the right time to 
> engage? I presume that it is appropriate to have discussions 
> directly with BES instead of OGSA, what is your recommendation?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dejan.
> 
> PS BTW We have had practice of the inter-group meetings in 
> most past GGFs, it might have not been as visible, but we 
> already met or exchange visits/presentations with DRMAA, 
> GRAAP, WSDM, DMTF Application group, etc.
> 
> > I think ACS-WG's work is another closely related one to CDDLM.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > ----
> > Hiro Kishimoto
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Tollefsrud [mailto:john.tollefsrud at sun.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:38 AM
> > > To: dejan.milojicic at hp.com
> > > Cc: Hiro Kishimoto
> > > Subject: FW: Session at GGF between CDDLM and related SRM groups, 
> > > DRMAA,
> > GRAAP,
> > > and JSDL (fwd)
> > > 
> > > Hi Dejan,
> > > 
> > > Good idea! Lert me know if I can help.
> > > 
> > > I'm looking forward to a meeting of the new Management area
> > at GGF14,
> > > and would appreciate having there a WG overview and update
> > from WG/RG
> > > chairs, and this would be a good meeting to recap in a
> > CDDLM overview. 
> > > I'll have more later on the GGF14 area meeting.
> > > 
> > > Thanks -
> > > jt
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:52:07 +0200 (MEST)
> > > From: Andreas Haas <andreas.haas at sun.com>
> > > To: "Milojicic, Dejan S" <dejan.milojicic at hp.com>
> > > Cc: Hrabri Rajic <hrabri.rajic at intel.com>, asm100 at doc.ic.ac.uk,
> > >      darren at pulsipher.org, ali at epcc.ed.ac.uk, pruyne at hpl.hp.com,
> > >      v.sander at fz-juelich.de, Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de
> > > Subject: Re: Session at GGF between CDDLM and related SRM groups, 
> > > DRMAA, GRAAP,
> > >      and JSDL
> > > 
> > > Hi Dejan,
> > > 
> > > I agree such a talk is reasonable and will try to participate.
> > > I just submitted DRMAA WG session and specified overlap 
> with CDDLM 
> > > sessions should be prevented.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Andreas
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 25 May 2005, Milojicic, Dejan S wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > This email goes to the chairs of DRMAA, GRAAP, and JSDL. CDDLM 
> > > > groups is interested in holding a session between our
> > four groups. 
> > > > We have close to completed all our planned specs in he area of 
> > > > configuration description, deployment, and lifecycle
> > management, and
> > > > we are moving towards reference implementations for the
> > GGF in Fall. 
> > > > This is the good time for us to
> > > discuss
> > > > with you how we relate and if we are mutually compliant. 
> > We had some
> > > ongoing
> > > > informal discussions in the past, this time I would like
> > to schedule
> > > > a session only for this purpose. I will do so if you are
> > interested. 
> > > > Please comment asap so that I can request a slot in a
> > timely manner.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Dejan.