From wulf at mcs.anl.gov  Wed Mar  2 10:25:30 2005
From: wulf at mcs.anl.gov (Julie Wulf-Knoerzer)
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:25:30 -0600
Subject: [CCGT] Community Council F2F in Korea
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20050302095432.01da4cd0@localhost>

Dear All,
It was decided on yesterday's GFSG call that Council Face-to-face meetings 
would be best held mid-day on Sunday.

Sunday's schedule (as it applies to the CC) would look similar to below:
9a -12p - GFSG F2F
12p-2p - Community Council F2F (working lunch)
2:00p - GFSG re-adjourn with 30 minute council reports outlining their 
3-month plans (in addition to other GFSG business).

This being said, please let me know if you will be available mid-day Sunday 
(I want to be sure the majority of the council members have arrived by that 
time).

Discussion topics for the Community Council mid-day meeting will include:
*GGF-14 Community Track Program (proposed 1 solid community track and 1 
solid workshop),
*Review of Community Objectives & Measures (see attached) - determine 
plan/action for each deliverable,
*GGF-15 Community Track Program (integration with GGF-15 PC, workshops, etc.).

If it is determined that additional meeting time is required, I will seek 
out additional meeting space on-site for later in the week.  In the 
meantime, your advance comments, thoughts, ideas, etc., on the issues above 
in preparation for our meeting are welcome.

Regards,
Julie



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***New contact information as of 16-Feb***
Julie Wulf-Knoerzer
Manager of Community Development
wulf at ggf.org
ph. 630/252-7163
fax 630/252-4466
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From matsu at is.titech.ac.jp  Wed Mar  2 17:55:29 2005
From: matsu at is.titech.ac.jp (Satoshi Matsuoka)
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:55:29 +0900
Subject: [CCGT] Community Council F2F in Korea
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20050302095432.01da4cd0@localhost>
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20050302095432.01da4cd0@localhost>
Message-ID: <20050303085100.CC0E.MATSU@is.titech.ac.jp>


Yes, I will be arrving the day before, and available all day for GFSG on
Sunday (save for tasting some of those delicious Korean breakfast at a
fairly cheap but good restaurant just down the road from the hotel :-)

(If anyone else is interested in having Korean breakfast they are
quite welcome to join me.)

							Satoshi (M)

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:25:30 -0600
Julie Wulf-Knoerzer <wulf at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:

wulf> Dear All,
wulf> It was decided on yesterday's GFSG call that Council Face-to-face meetings 
wulf> would be best held mid-day on Sunday.
wulf> 
wulf> Sunday's schedule (as it applies to the CC) would look similar to below:
wulf> 9a -12p - GFSG F2F
wulf> 12p-2p - Community Council F2F (working lunch)
wulf> 2:00p - GFSG re-adjourn with 30 minute council reports outlining their 
wulf> 3-month plans (in addition to other GFSG business).
wulf> 
wulf> This being said, please let me know if you will be available mid-day Sunday 
wulf> (I want to be sure the majority of the council members have arrived by that 
wulf> time).
wulf> 
wulf> Discussion topics for the Community Council mid-day meeting will include:
wulf> *GGF-14 Community Track Program (proposed 1 solid community track and 1 
wulf> solid workshop),
wulf> *Review of Community Objectives & Measures (see attached) - determine 
wulf> plan/action for each deliverable,
wulf> *GGF-15 Community Track Program (integration with GGF-15 PC, workshops, etc.).
wulf> 
wulf> If it is determined that additional meeting time is required, I will seek 
wulf> out additional meeting space on-site for later in the week.  In the 
wulf> meantime, your advance comments, thoughts, ideas, etc., on the issues above 
wulf> in preparation for our meeting are welcome.
wulf> 
wulf> Regards,
wulf> Julie
wulf> 
wulf> 
wulf> 
wulf> +++++++++++++++++++
wulf> ***New contact information as of 16-Feb***
wulf> Julie Wulf-Knoerzer
wulf> Manager of Community Development
wulf> wulf at ggf.org
wulf> ph. 630/252-7163
wulf> fax 630/252-4466

Satoshi Matsuoka,  Professor
Global Scientific Information and Computing Center 
 & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences
Tokyo Institute of Technology
Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan
Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876   E-mail: matsu at acm.org, matsu at is.titech.ac.jp




From catlett at mcs.anl.gov  Wed Mar  2 22:54:43 2005
From: catlett at mcs.anl.gov (Charlie Catlett)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:54:43 -0600
Subject: [CCGT] Community Council F2F in Korea
In-Reply-To: <20050303085100.CC0E.MATSU@is.titech.ac.jp>
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20050302095432.01da4cd0@localhost>
 <20050303085100.CC0E.MATSU@is.titech.ac.jp>
Message-ID: <p06110406be4c4903cca8@[140.221.8.45]>

Count me in for breakfast.

At 8:55 AM +0900 3/3/05, Satoshi Matsuoka wrote:
>Yes, I will be arrving the day before, and available all day for GFSG on
>Sunday (save for tasting some of those delicious Korean breakfast at a
>fairly cheap but good restaurant just down the road from the hotel :-)
>
>(If anyone else is interested in having Korean breakfast they are
>quite welcome to join me.)
>
>							Satoshi (M)
>
>On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:25:30 -0600
>Julie Wulf-Knoerzer <wulf at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>
>wulf> Dear All,
>wulf> It was decided on yesterday's GFSG call that Council 
>Face-to-face meetings
>wulf> would be best held mid-day on Sunday.
>wulf>
>wulf> Sunday's schedule (as it applies to the CC) would look similar to below:
>wulf> 9a -12p - GFSG F2F
>wulf> 12p-2p - Community Council F2F (working lunch)
>wulf> 2:00p - GFSG re-adjourn with 30 minute council reports outlining their
>wulf> 3-month plans (in addition to other GFSG business).
>wulf>
>wulf> This being said, please let me know if you will be available 
>mid-day Sunday
>wulf> (I want to be sure the majority of the council members have 
>arrived by that
>wulf> time).
>wulf>
>wulf> Discussion topics for the Community Council mid-day meeting 
>will include:
>wulf> *GGF-14 Community Track Program (proposed 1 solid community track and 1
>wulf> solid workshop),
>wulf> *Review of Community Objectives & Measures (see attached) - determine
>wulf> plan/action for each deliverable,
>wulf> *GGF-15 Community Track Program (integration with GGF-15 PC, 
>workshops, etc.).
>wulf>
>wulf> If it is determined that additional meeting time is required, 
>I will seek
>wulf> out additional meeting space on-site for later in the week.  In the
>wulf> meantime, your advance comments, thoughts, ideas, etc., on the 
>issues above
>wulf> in preparation for our meeting are welcome.
>wulf>
>wulf> Regards,
>wulf> Julie
>wulf>
>wulf>
>wulf>
>wulf> +++++++++++++++++++
>wulf> ***New contact information as of 16-Feb***
>wulf> Julie Wulf-Knoerzer
>wulf> Manager of Community Development
>wulf> wulf at ggf.org
>wulf> ph. 630/252-7163
>wulf> fax 630/252-4466
>
>Satoshi Matsuoka,  Professor
>Global Scientific Information and Computing Center
>  & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences
>Tokyo Institute of Technology
>Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan
>Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876   E-mail: matsu at acm.org, matsu at is.titech.ac.jp




From matsu at is.titech.ac.jp  Wed Mar  2 23:04:27 2005
From: matsu at is.titech.ac.jp (Satoshi Matsuoka)
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:04:27 +0900
Subject: [CCGT] Community Council F2F in Korea
In-Reply-To: <p06110406be4c4903cca8@[140.221.8.45]>
References: <20050303085100.CC0E.MATSU@is.titech.ac.jp> <p06110406be4c4903cca8@[140.221.8.45]>
Message-ID: <20050303140337.CC38.MATSU@is.titech.ac.jp>


OK, how about the lobby of the Lotte hotel at 7:45AM, for anyone who
would care to join.

							Satoshi

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:54:43 -0600
Charlie Catlett <catlett at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:

catlett> Count me in for breakfast.
catlett> 
catlett> At 8:55 AM +0900 3/3/05, Satoshi Matsuoka wrote:
catlett> >Yes, I will be arrving the day before, and available all day for GFSG on
catlett> >Sunday (save for tasting some of those delicious Korean breakfast at a
catlett> >fairly cheap but good restaurant just down the road from the hotel :-)
catlett> >
catlett> >(If anyone else is interested in having Korean breakfast they are
catlett> >quite welcome to join me.)
catlett> >
catlett> >							Satoshi (M)
catlett> >
catlett> >On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:25:30 -0600
catlett> >Julie Wulf-Knoerzer <wulf at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
catlett> >
catlett> >wulf> Dear All,
catlett> >wulf> It was decided on yesterday's GFSG call that Council 
catlett> >Face-to-face meetings
catlett> >wulf> would be best held mid-day on Sunday.
catlett> >wulf>
catlett> >wulf> Sunday's schedule (as it applies to the CC) would look similar to below:
catlett> >wulf> 9a -12p - GFSG F2F
catlett> >wulf> 12p-2p - Community Council F2F (working lunch)
catlett> >wulf> 2:00p - GFSG re-adjourn with 30 minute council reports outlining their
catlett> >wulf> 3-month plans (in addition to other GFSG business).
catlett> >wulf>
catlett> >wulf> This being said, please let me know if you will be available 
catlett> >mid-day Sunday
catlett> >wulf> (I want to be sure the majority of the council members have 
catlett> >arrived by that
catlett> >wulf> time).
catlett> >wulf>
catlett> >wulf> Discussion topics for the Community Council mid-day meeting 
catlett> >will include:
catlett> >wulf> *GGF-14 Community Track Program (proposed 1 solid community track and 1
catlett> >wulf> solid workshop),
catlett> >wulf> *Review of Community Objectives & Measures (see attached) - determine
catlett> >wulf> plan/action for each deliverable,
catlett> >wulf> *GGF-15 Community Track Program (integration with GGF-15 PC, 
catlett> >workshops, etc.).
catlett> >wulf>
catlett> >wulf> If it is determined that additional meeting time is required, 
catlett> >I will seek
catlett> >wulf> out additional meeting space on-site for later in the week.  In the
catlett> >wulf> meantime, your advance comments, thoughts, ideas, etc., on the 
catlett> >issues above
catlett> >wulf> in preparation for our meeting are welcome.
catlett> >wulf>
catlett> >wulf> Regards,
catlett> >wulf> Julie
catlett> >wulf>
catlett> >wulf>
catlett> >wulf>
catlett> >wulf> +++++++++++++++++++
catlett> >wulf> ***New contact information as of 16-Feb***
catlett> >wulf> Julie Wulf-Knoerzer
catlett> >wulf> Manager of Community Development
catlett> >wulf> wulf at ggf.org
catlett> >wulf> ph. 630/252-7163
catlett> >wulf> fax 630/252-4466
catlett> >
catlett> >Satoshi Matsuoka,  Professor
catlett> >Global Scientific Information and Computing Center
catlett> >  & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences
catlett> >Tokyo Institute of Technology
catlett> >Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan
catlett> >Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876   E-mail: matsu at acm.org, matsu at is.titech.ac.jp
catlett> 

????????????????????????
?152-8550 ????????? 2-12-1	(?7??2F)
Tel/Fax 03-5734-3876 (?7??2F206) ??090-5811-8746 (FOMA-TV????) 
E-mail: matsu at is.titech.ac.jp
?????  secretary at matsulab.is.titech.ac.jp




From catlett at mcs.anl.gov  Mon Mar 21 13:36:03 2005
From: catlett at mcs.anl.gov (Charlie Catlett)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:36:03 -0600
Subject: [CCGT] PROPOSAL:  Science Gateway Portal Workshop at GGF-14
Message-ID: <p0611040cbe64cee502c9@[140.221.8.45]>

Friends-

I realize that the process for proposing a GGF workshop is that the 
proposal must be submitted in time for the GROC to review at the GGF 
meeting immediately preceeding the one at which you wish to hold the 
workshop.  But with all of the structural changes in GGF it seems 
reasonable to me that we consider a late proposal.

Sebastien Goasguen (sebgoa at purdue.edu), Dennis Gannon 
(gannon at cs.indiana.edu) and Nancy Wilkins-Diehr (wilkinsn at sdsc.edu) 
have been running an intense set of interviews of TeraGrid science 
gateway projects over the past month.  Working with a small team of 
folks from multiple institutions they are planning to have a draft 
report at the end of this month.  The report is largely going to be 
an analysis of common requirements for portal access to grid 
resources (but it is a bit more broad than that).  During the first 
week of April there is a TeraGrid internal All-Hands meeting at which 
this team will hold discussions with a much larger group of people, 
including individuals from the 10 or so projects that they 
interviewed individually.

I would like to propose an all-day workshop at GGF-14 where this same 
team brings together the groups that they have been talking to as 
well as others who are working on putting grid resources "behind" 
portals.  The objective would be to explore further the notion of a 
common approach to allowing interactions between portals and grid 
resources.  The goal of such a common approach would be that a 
science team that develops a portal for their community could readily 
"plug in" resources from multiple Grids at the back end of their 
portal.

I would like to have this team begin to plan such a workshop, ideally 
holding some planning sessions during the first week of April while 
they are together at the TeraGrid all-hands meeting.

In addition, I would like to ask the GGF steering group folks who are 
plugged into the relevant communities to suggest others who this 
group ought to be talking with about this workshop.  For instance, I 
know the eScience programme in the UK has some work in this area and 
I suspect that there is similar work happening in Japan.

Thanks-
CeC




From mark.linesch at hp.com  Mon Mar 21 18:27:14 2005
From: mark.linesch at hp.com (Linesch, Mark)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:27:14 -0600
Subject: [CCGT] RE: PROPOSAL:  Science Gateway Portal Workshop at GGF-14
Message-ID: <CCDBA2B1F7D38141A9A9BFCBB8C0173E0340B199@cceexc14.americas.cpqcorp.net>

Excellent... I really like the concept of science gateway portals and
would like to learn more - I could imagine an entire section of Google
dedicated to finding and accessing these types of portals sometime in
the future (not predicting, just imagining). Dennis, Charlie, can you
work on a 1-page proposal and schedule as a topic with Steve at an
upcoming GFSG con-call? Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Gannon [mailto:gannon at cs.indiana.edu] 
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:41 PM
To: Charlie Catlett
Cc: craig at rushg.aero.org; matsu at is.titech.ac.jp; gcf at cs.indiana.edu;
wilkinsn at sdsc.edu; Goasguen, Sebastien; gannon at indiana.edu; Linesch,
Mark; ccgt at ggf.org
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Science Gateway Portal Workshop at GGF-14


i think this is a very good idea.  also the portal working group is
kicking back into action at ggf, so they would also be iterested in
participating. dennis

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Charlie Catlett wrote:

> Friends-
>
> I realize that the process for proposing a GGF workshop is that the 
> proposal must be submitted in time for the GROC to review at the GGF 
> meeting immediately preceeding the one at which you wish to hold the 
> workshop.  But with all of the structural changes in GGF it seems 
> reasonable to me that we consider a late proposal.
>
> Sebastien Goasguen (sebgoa at purdue.edu), Dennis Gannon
> (gannon at cs.indiana.edu) and Nancy Wilkins-Diehr (wilkinsn at sdsc.edu) 
> have been running an intense set of interviews of TeraGrid science 
> gateway projects over the past month.  Working with a small team of 
> folks from multiple institutions they are planning to have a draft 
> report at the end of this month.  The report is largely going to be an

> analysis of common requirements for portal access to grid resources 
> (but it is a bit more broad than that).  During the first week of 
> April there is a TeraGrid internal All-Hands meeting at which this 
> team will hold discussions with a much larger group of people, 
> including individuals from the 10 or so projects that they interviewed

> individually.
>
> I would like to propose an all-day workshop at GGF-14 where this same 
> team brings together the groups that they have been talking to as well

> as others who are working on putting grid resources "behind" portals.

> The objective would be to explore further the notion of a common 
> approach to allowing interactions between portals and grid resources.

> The goal of such a common approach would be that a science team that 
> develops a portal for their community could readily "plug in" 
> resources from multiple Grids at the back end of their portal.
>
> I would like to have this team begin to plan such a workshop, ideally 
> holding some planning sessions during the first week of April while 
> they are together at the TeraGrid all-hands meeting.
>
> In addition, I would like to ask the GGF steering group folks who are 
> plugged into the relevant communities to suggest others who this group

> ought to be talking with about this workshop.  For instance, I know 
> the eScience programme in the UK has some work in this area and I 
> suspect that there is similar work happening in Japan.
>
> Thanks-
> CeC
>




From wulf at mcs.anl.gov  Thu Mar 24 18:35:49 2005
From: wulf at mcs.anl.gov (Julie Wulf-Knoerzer)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:35:49 -0600
Subject: [CCGT] GGF-14 Workshops and near-term action
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20050324183053.045654d0@localhost>

Hi all,

I expect to have a better idea of space available for the community track 
and/or workshops at GGF-14 shortly but in the meantime, it is my 
understanding that the community council is 'endorsing' the following 
workshops thus far (please let me know if there are others):
*Life Sciences (1/2 day),
*Science Gateway Portal (full day).

Something that I would like clarification on is the GGF-14 process for 
handling workshop submissions from other Research Groups.  Amidst this 
transitional phase, it is important that we inform the RG Chairs/GFSG of 
our plans as soon as possible.  In Geoffrey's absence, I will be reporting 
the community council activities on next week's GFSG call and if possible, 
I would like to have a proposal for GFSG discussion before then.  Should we 
use the GROC model for GGF14?  Your insight is greatly appreciated.

According to my notes from our face-to-face, below are the Community 
Council's short-term actions:

*Act as GGF-14 Program Committee with the goal of exposing the applications 
community to grid solutions, specifically:
         -Create a set of rooms (or, 2 one-day academic tracks),
         -Recruit groups (software providers?) for a 'SUPER WORKSHOP' track 
by a) reviewing where we are with RGs, b) identify candidate areas, c) hope 
that they pan-out for GGF-14.
*DAVE, CHARLIE, SATOSHI, CRAIG are prepared this week to begin looking at 
this track concept for GGF14 with Julie providing support where needed.
*By Early June:  Area leaders write a community charter doc for their area.
*By Late June:  GCF compile charter docs to formulate into GGF 
Participation Guide for GGF14.

More comprehensive notes to follow (Geoffrey and I are currently iterating 
them) but I just wanted to be sure that you had the near-term portion.

In other news, on Tuesday's GFSG call, there was discussion of an events 
committee telecon (involving Mark, Geoffrey, Malcolm, Steve and Ann).  I do 
not believe this has happened yet but I expect the community council's role 
in GGF-14 and GGF-15 programs to become more defined in the near future.

Thanks,
Julie


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Julie Wulf-Knoerzer
Manager of Community Development
wulf at ggf.org
ph. 630/252-7163
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From gcf at grids.ucs.indiana.edu  Thu Mar 24 07:20:23 2005
From: gcf at grids.ucs.indiana.edu (Geoffrey Fox)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:20:23 -0500
Subject: [CCGT] A STEM Community in GGF
Message-ID: <4242BE97.4080605@grids.ucs.indiana.edu>

STEM is Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics and used to 
describe parts
of  education often viewed as weak in USA.
I think we could set up a useful STEM community that could have 
activities similar to
those of education part in SCxx
I suspect we could both benefit a broad community and probably compete
for various funding opportunities

Comments?

-- 
:
: Geoffrey Fox  gcf at indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http://www.infomall.org
: Phones Cell 812-219-4643  Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977

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From blatecky at unc.edu  Sat Mar 26 12:26:44 2005
From: blatecky at unc.edu (Alan Blatecky)
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:26:44 -0500
Subject: [CCGT] A STEM Community in GGF
In-Reply-To: <4242BE97.4080605@grids.ucs.indiana.edu>
Message-ID: <005901c53231$606f9980$f8a81398@blateckyltcs>

Geoffrey

 

This is a good idea, especially if some of the STEM folks are willing to get
engaged and help drive the activities

 

Alan

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ccgt at ggf.org [mailto:owner-ccgt at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Geoffrey
Fox
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:20 AM
To: CCGT at ggf.org
Subject: [CCGT] A STEM Community in GGF

 

STEM is Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics and used to
describe parts
of  education often viewed as weak in USA.
I think we could set up a useful STEM community that could have activities
similar to
those of education part in SCxx
I suspect we could both benefit a broad community and probably compete
for various funding opportunities

Comments?




-- 
:
: Geoffrey Fox  gcf at indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http://www.infomall.org
: Phones Cell 812-219-4643  Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977
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From gcf at grids.ucs.indiana.edu  Sat Mar 26 15:10:40 2005
From: gcf at grids.ucs.indiana.edu (Geoffrey Fox)
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:10:40 -0500
Subject: [CCGT] Federal STI Community
Message-ID: <4245CFD0.2020705@grids.ucs.indiana.edu>

On April 25th, I will be talking at a meeting of CENDI which is
an interagency group of scientific and technical information (STI)
managers from 12 major federal agencies.  In DoE this is called OSTI
Together CENDI members are meant to represent agencies covering over
95% of the federal R&D budget. (http://www.CENDI.gov).
These are information systems leaders and I was introduced to them as
I am helping design of Information Retrieval Grid for federating
different federal databases (http://www.science.gov)
I think most corporations have such needs for information systems
and it could be interesting community.
Note that the CENDI Group exchanges ideas and information
covering a broad range of themes from policy to standards
to technologies that impact or have the potential of
impacting federal STI systems.

If we had a community track, the GridIR and Portal activities
would be very relevant.
I will certainly encourage them to get involved with GGF and I
realize it would be useful if for each GGF meeting, we
identified activities that could be interesting to each of a set
of communities we support. We also could collect talks such as the one
I will give and list those of interest to each community.

-- 
:
: Geoffrey Fox  gcf at indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http://www.infomall.org
: Phones Cell 812-219-4643  Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977