Action Item on [cads] Community Council Meeting Minutes

Catlett Charlie catlett at mcs.anl.gov
Wed May 24 07:10:15 CDT 2006


>>> e-Science
name of a UK program, so too narrow

>>> e-Research
best not to define yet another new term which does not help  
communication (the point to choosing a word)

>>> Cyberinfrastructure
understood broadly in the US, but has a US centrism to it so perhaps  
too narrow

>>> Science         (in spirit of NSF which also does education and  
>>> engineering)
ok, maybe, if we are going for one word*

>>> Research
no*

>>>

* the trouble with one word is that it paints this group into an  
academic-only corner.  I am tempted to suggest "Infrastructure"  
because this group in fact exists within a Grid-oriented organization  
and thus there is no need to clarify that we are talking e- or cyber-  
or grid.

If we are infrastructure then we are not tied exclusively to science  
(most companies, if they do any science, do very little), research  
(despite similarities with corporate research, this paints an  
academic club picture), or some particular made-up buzzword like e- 
Science or cyberinfrastructure.

CeC

On May 23, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Geoffrey Fox wrote:

> We are trying to find one word!
> The full title can (and at one time did) have Research and  
> Development in it
>
> Robert Cohen wrote:
>> I would prefer something that sounds a bit less pure research or  
>> Ivory Tower. Some of what will be covered could also
>> be done in a development environment or the research side of a  
>> corporation. Also by dropping cyberinfrastructure the link to  
>> infrastructure disappears.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Perhaps analytic or Alan Blatecky wrote:
>>> I vote for Science  - exactly for the reason Geoffrey has mentioned.
>>>
>>>
>>> Research isn’t as broad, and is often set as opposed to education  
>>> (hence Research and Education networks)
>>>
>>>
>>> e-Science and e-Research are trendy, but already have baggage  
>>> associated.
>>>
>>>
>>> I like cyberinfrastructure, but is too broad and covers a huge  
>>> range of disciplines, tools, and so forth.
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-cads at ggf.org [mailto:owner-cads at ggf.org] On Behalf Of  
>>> Geoffrey Fox
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:11 PM
>>> To: cads at ggf.org
>>> Cc: Gwen Nichols-White
>>> Subject: Action Item on [cads] Community Council Meeting Minutes
>>>
>>>
>>> ·         Geoffrey Fox, by next Community call (6/6), to create a  
>>> shortlist (qty 3) options for single-word name for the  
>>> “Engineering, Science and Research” function, then socialize  
>>> amongst the research community to ensure acceptance.  Final  
>>> decision will be made for functions and areas by the end of June.
>>>
>>> We need to find some single word names; here is a start
>>> Lets add names and then vote. Here is a start
>>>
>>> e-Science
>>> e-Research
>>> Cyberinfrastructure
>>> Science         (in spirit of NSF which also does education and  
>>> engineering)
>>> Research
>>>
>>> Gwen Nichols-White wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Attached are the minutes and action items from today’s meeting.   
>>> Our next meeting is scheduled for 10am CST, on Tuesday 6/6/06.   
>>> Please call if you have questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gwen Nichols-White
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
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