[cads] Virtualization and Grids

[Craig Lee]

A goal of grid computing is having to compile-in or statically configure
as little as possible by out-of-band means.  I've been calling this
a posteriori computing (the opposite of having a priori knowledge).
This is addressed by virtualization in all of the areas mentioned here.
The real toughest nut will be true virtualization of service provisioning.
This is certainly a fundamental research topic.

--Craig

At 04:34 AM 3/29/2006, Dennis Gannon wrote:
>I agree with Bob.  virtualization is critical to grid success.  it
>has actually been there all along.  the first grid standards virtualized
>access and identity.  the next phase was virtualizing resources and now
>ogsa and other architectures are virtualizing services and applications.
>But this path has not always been clear and there are entire industries
>that are emerging,  such as those virtualizing file systems/storage at
>the network level, or virtualizing computational resources.
>
>however, i feel there is still a lot of hype to sort through.  an
>interesting approach would be to do a pannel at ggf17 or ggf18 that
>looks at real virtualization use-cases and ask the question: how are
>grid standards helping to enable these?  Bob, i still don't have
>a voice-of-the-community panel proposal from you.  why don't you
>do it on this topic?
>dennis
>
>
>On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Robert Cohen wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > We did not get to virtualization today, but I am seeing many more
> > vendors focusing on it. I think that one thing that would be very
> > helpful in interacting with EGA, particularly with vendors who don't
> > believe that GGF is responsive to their customers, would be to have a
> > discussion on how to deal with the issue of virtualization with some GGF
> > community and standards folks as well as EGA and perhaps a few
> > interested sponsors.
> >
> > One goal would be to begin to formulate a more encompassing and
> > convergent GGF-EGA view of where virtualization is going and how it will
> > impact the deployment of grids in research and commercial settings.
> >
> > Another goal would be to identify a few initial steps that might let GGF
> > and the GGF-EGA NEWORG begin to integrate virtualization into
> > conferences and programs, plus discussions about the goals of the NEWORG.
> >
> > A third goal would be to see how the emergence of GGF and EGA as leaders
> > in bringing virtualization more visibility might enhance the position
> > that the two organizations have in the press. If the press sees GGF-EGA
> > taking on the importance of virtualization and insuring that 1)
> > standards being developed for grids are on a path that is preparing
> > grids for virtualization and 2) business models for virtualization are
> > being taken seriously (we have already seen the impact in telcos), this
> > might change the perception of GGF as just an SDO.
> >
> > I would suggest an initial call under the GGF tent to discuss this,
> > probably more among the community people first, but I am open to
> > suggestions.
> >
> > I do see the trend to virtualization as one that is beginning to subsume
> > Grids under its definition but I think the two are really intertwined
> > and that the issue of networks and grids is key in moving to 
> virtualization.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > Fogel, Robert wrote:
> >
> > > <<GGF VOC and VAF.ppt>>
> > >
> > > Robert Fogel
> > > Grid & Service-Oriented IT
> > > WW Strategy and Business Development
> > > Intel Corp
> > > 408-765-6404
> > >
> > >
> > > _____________________________________________
> > > From:   Fogel, Robert
> > > Sent:   Monday, August 22, 2005 6:31 PM
> > > To:     cads at ggf.org; Replogle, Joel (GGF); Steve Crumb
> > > Subject:        GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly (REMINDER)
> > > When:   Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:00 AM-11:00 AM (GMT-06:00) Central
> > > Time (US & Canada).
> > > Where:   1-888-455-3044 and +1 210 839 8611, Passcode: 94172
> > >
> > > (3/27) - Agenda below
> > > (3/14) - Added international call-in info.
> > > (3/13) - This is a placeholder for GGF Community Council Bi-Weekly
> > > meeting.  Each week I will pre-send an agenda and any materials for
> > > our meeting.
> > >
> > > Agenda:
> > >
> > >           o GGF17 update (Dennis Gannon)
> > >           o Review of GGF17 content and unfilled sessions
> > >           o Review roadmap/plan for VOC and VAF at GGF17, GGF18 and 
> beyond
> > >           o GGF18 Community program
> > >
> >
> >
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