ODNI Counsel: Governments Want Accessible Crypto from Business

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John Young

8 Feb 2015 8 Feb '15

1:42 a.m.

ODNI counsel Robert Litt is "optimistic" cryptographers will devise secure encryption which provides government access, it's "what many governments want." "One of the many ways in which Snowden's leaks have damaged our national security is by driving a wedge between government and providers and technology companies so that some companies that formerly recognized that protecting our nation was a valuable and important public service they could perform now feel compelled to stand in opposition." http://cryptome.org/2015/02/odni-litt-15-0204.pdf

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grarpamp

8 Feb 8 Feb

6:14 a.m.

New subject: [cryptography] ODNI Counsel: Governments Want Accessible Crypto from Business

On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 8:42 PM, John Young wrote:

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ODNI counsel Robert Litt is "optimistic" cryptographers will devise secure encryption which provides government access, it's "what many governments > want." "One of the many ways in which Snowden's leaks have damaged our national security is by driving a wedge between government and providers and technology companies so that some companies that formerly recognized that protecting our nation was a valuable and important public service they could perform now feel compelled to stand in opposition."

Some award winning slimy statements right there. Translation: Govt damaged itself, got caught, is pissed, is trying another sleazy grab. Corp's sold users/customers out the last 15y, are trying to regain trust (you've got at least 15y to make up for... so keep standing in opposition, we'll let you know when you can take a break) Snowden's a hero

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http://cryptome.org/2015/02/odni-litt-15-0204.pdf You're all "potential other threats", handy right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Freedom_Act http://www.lawfareblog.com/2015/02/the-lawfare-podcast-episode-109-robet-lit... http://www.lawfareblog.com/2015/02/live-bob-litt-speaks-at-brookings-on-inte... They still haven't answered? that one simple question about how having *you* on their disks without a warrant specifically covering probable cause on *you* to put it there... is constitutional.

grarpamp

6:31 a.m.

New subject: [cryptography] ODNI Counsel: Governments Want Accessible Crypto from Business

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Freedom_Act http://www.lawfareblog.com/2015/02/the-lawfare-podcast-episode-109-robet-lit... http://www.lawfareblog.com/2015/02/live-bob-litt-speaks-at-brookings-on-inte...

odinn

9:46 a.m.

New subject: [cryptography] ODNI Counsel: Governments Want Accessible Crypto from Business

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 In this the USA (ODNI / NSA / three-letter thing) is no different than Russian Federation or China (some latest China stories I've seen floated to this group here): http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/telecom/security/chinas-new-rules-ask-tec... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2476275,00.asp This all brings to mind some things I've pointed out in the past and things that people have harped about endlessly but which have mostly gone ignored: Support (or help develop) open source hardware projects that strive to create independence from the sort of things we are seeing in the corporate realm in which USA / Russia / China "force" Microsoft and other companies to backdoor their products. As suggested in this Jan. 2, 2014 blog post... https://odinn.cyberguerrilla.org/index.php/2014/01/02/opensourcebuildguide/ "– Support or develop open source processors. consider using the Open Core project as a starting point – Learn more about OpenRISC development, participate in discussion about it – Become part of, or create, open source collaborative efforts (some examples: Open Source Initiative, Open Daylight, the Open Source Hardware Association (OSHWA), Open Source Firmware (DD-WRT, Tomato), etc.) – Make informed buying choices: Purchase new hardware (any computer equipment, mobile included) only from sources that have committed to open source development of that hardware. (...)" Notes: Popular Science on Tindie: http://www.popsci.com/article/diy/rise-open-source-hardware Novena open source laptop by Bunnie (on Sutajio Ko-usagi's page) http://www.kosagi.com/w/index.php?title=Novena_Main_Page Met 280% of its funding goal in May of 2014 - see: http://vr-zone.com/articles/novena-open-laptop-project-exceeds-280-percent-c... Bunnie's page http://www.bunniestudios.com/ grarpamp:

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On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 8:42 PM, John Young wrote:

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ODNI counsel Robert Litt is "optimistic" cryptographers will devise secure encryption which provides government access, it's "what many governments > want." "One of the many ways in which Snowden's leaks have damaged our national security is by driving a wedge between government and providers and technology companies so that some companies that formerly recognized that protecting our nation was a valuable and important public service they could perform now feel compelled to stand in opposition."

Some award winning slimy statements right there.

Translation: Govt damaged itself, got caught, is pissed, is trying another sleazy grab. Corp's sold users/customers out the last 15y, are trying to regain trust (you've got at least 15y to make up for... so keep standing in opposition, we'll let you know when you can take a break) Snowden's a hero

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http://cryptome.org/2015/02/odni-litt-15-0204.pdf You're all "potential other threats", handy right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Freedom_Act http://www.lawfareblog.com/2015/02/the-lawfare-podcast-episode-109-robet-lit...

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2015/02/live-bob-litt-speaks-at-brookings-on-inte...

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They still haven't answered? that one simple question about how having *you* on their disks without a warrant specifically covering probable cause on *you* to put it there... is constitutional.

- -- http://abis.io ~ "a protocol concept to enable decentralization and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good" https://keybase.io/odinn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJU1zCKAAoJEGxwq/inSG8CAEUIAInKlLotsnbbkvWikaxgwuo7 PMjPn6BDSSLti2gXfJ75k/iHyq2jOfa9WJyaQzW/z9IAewbwTjNkvmYIfAQiUhNy tSvBC+PHhJbpcepTQjJvXQgcoOAqn/E36LxaVwPCEwd+EPqCH9ls1bSRaEqRtGAZ 17KkG5vX3DGr2UX60lLa7QyUaRbSEyFVJt3ZrY6VUHRYh4c5T/Pyzja7DUBIphFD jjM1KNWrrMb1CHREoFTnPC4o7teRzgRGbAr+YZFQkWUjerWDCYXXl5MNyHgkJab4 MZ8t0+oEQUycNys4q3fSZ6cl5UuiFo+fO5l/8eloKkUCmOuL6NW7p/0C3NlyoPU= =9bOZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Steven Schear

8:54 a.m.

Of course, their citizens have little or no real standing to encouraging one direction over the other. On Feb 7, 2015 5:43 PM, "John Young" wrote:

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ODNI counsel Robert Litt is "optimistic" cryptographers will devise secure encryption which provides government access, it's "what many governments want."

"One of the many ways in which Snowden's leaks have damaged our national security is by driving a wedge between government and providers and technology companies so that some companies that formerly recognized that protecting our nation was a valuable and important public service they could perform now feel compelled to stand in opposition."

http://cryptome.org/2015/02/odni-litt-15-0204.pdf

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