The (Western) Empire: free speech, holocaust denial, jail in 14 countries
What a swell empire it is - not. For the free speech crime of holocaust denial today, in the EU, jail is the punishment in 14 EU countries. To learn who controls you, look only at those you may not criticize. Free speech? Freedom to publicly communicate/ publish conentious conspiracies such as "the holocaust never happened"? David Dees - page 98 is missing: http://ddees.com/index.php/2016/11/17/page-98/
On Sun, Jan 08, 2017 at 08:27:43PM -0800, Razer wrote:
On 01/08/2017 07:34 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
To learn who controls you, look only at those you may not criticize.
If you live in a Nazi nation they'll kill you for criticizing them.
Any questions stupid?
What about that holocaust? What was the number of Jews holocausted in all the newspapers after WWI?
On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 21:03:28 -0800 Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
On 01/08/2017 08:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
What about that holocaust? What was the number of Jews holocausted in all the newspapers after WWI?
Jews fought in the German army in WWI stupid.
and why shouldn't they - they are poster children for fascism
On Sun, Jan 08, 2017 at 09:03:28PM -0800, Razer wrote:
On 01/08/2017 08:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
What about that holocaust? What was the number of Jews holocausted in all the newspapers after WWI?
Jews fought in the German army in WWI stupid.
Well, not quite holocausted, but in 1915, which was 18 years before Hitler came into govt, precisely 6 million Jews were tortured, starved and incredibly badly mistreated. Again in 1918. Again later still. Don't believe it? The Sun (New York), The New York Times, etc, with a cool accent to go with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk Enjoy :)
What is the difference between a cow and the Jewish holocaust? You can't milk a cow for 70 years. Oh, and a cow is real. Only the most brainwashed idiots believe in the Holohoax. Jim _______ Video viewer comment: The Dolf "Jewish prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million Jews must “vanish” before the state of Israel can be formed. “You shall return minus 6 million.” That’s why Tom Segev, an Israeli historian, declared that the “6 million” is an attempt to transform the Holocaust story into state religion. Those six million, according to prophecy, had to disappear in “burning ovens”, which the judicial version of the Holocaust now authenticates. As a matter of fact, Robert B. Goldmann writes: “. . . without the Holocaust, there would be no Jewish State.” A simple consequence: Given six million Jews gassed at Auschwitz who ended up in the “burning ovens” (the Greek word holocaust means burned offerings), therefore, the prophecies have now been “fulfilled” and Israel can become a “legitimate state”. Regarding the ‘six million’ number you should know the following: In the Hebrew text of the Torah prophesies, one can read “you shall return”. In the text the letter “V” or “VAU” is absent, as Hebrew does not have any numbers; the letter V stands for the number 6. Ben Weintraub, a religious scientist, learned from rabbis that the meaning of the missing letter means the number is ‘6 million’. The prophesy then reads: You will return, but with 6 million less. See Ben Weintraub: “The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism”, Cosmo Publishing, Washington 1995, page 3. The missing 6 million must be so before the Jews can return to the Promised Land. Jahweh sees this as a cleaning of the souls of the sinful people. The Jews must, on the return to the Promised Land, be clean — the cleaning shall be done in burning stokes. As much as I despise religion, it plays a key role regarding the number in question. I am trying to show where the number 6 million originates, hence why these zealots propagate such a number. It provided the impetus and PR ammunition they needed to make their “gallant return” to the “promised land” at the war’s end establishing a racist/apartheid “Jewish state” called “Israel” in 1948. And this all just happens to fit the previously cited ancient Torah prophecy down to the very letter. A consideration, of crematories, both old and new, must be made to determine the functionality of the German 'Kremas' at accomplishing their attributed tasks. For example, none of the ovens inspected and examined at all of the locations were designed for multiple corpse incineration. The modern cremation process uses large, high-powered furnaces are fueled by gas or propane which generates fire that reaches a temperature of around 2000°F. Cremating at the optimum temperature, the average weighted remains takes 2 to 2 ½ hours... U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum states: The four gas chambers and crematoria constructed at Auschwitz-Birkenau after 1942 represent Nazi mass murder in its most industrialized form. Each of the four facilities could kill and incinerate more than 1,000 victims per day. Cremation specialists have confirmed that thousands of corpses could not possibly have been cremated every day at Auschwitz. The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations." ----- Original Message ----- From: Zenaan Harkness To: Jim Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 9:15 PM Subject: Re: The (Western) Empire: free speech, holocaust denial, jail in 14 countries Hi Jim, if nothing else, this is just plain fun to listen to - that accent is enjoyable :) Cheers Zen ----- Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> ----- Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 21:14:34 +1100 From: Zenaan Harkness To: Cypherpunks Subject: Re: The (Western) Empire: free speech, holocaust denial, jail in 14 countries On Sun, Jan 08, 2017 at 09:03:28PM -0800, Razer wrote: On 01/08/2017 08:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: What about that holocaust? What was the number of Jews holocausted in all the newspapers after WWI? Jews fought in the German army in WWI stupid. Well, not quite holocausted, but in 1915, which was 18 years before Hitler came into govt, precisely 6 million Jews were tortured, starved and incredibly badly mistreated. Again in 1918. Again later still. Don't believe it? The Sun (New York), The New York Times, etc, with a cool accent to go with it: SIX MILLION JEWS 1915-1938 HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk Enjoy :)
On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Jim <jim.sovereign@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
What is the difference between a cow and the Jewish holocaust? You can't milk a cow for 70 years. Oh, and a cow is real.
Only the most brainwashed idiots believe in the Holohoax.
God, it's frustra ting... All we needed on yhe CypherPunks list: - Another stupid and racist Australian jerk! :( Australia has lovely smiling quokkas, cute koala bears and exotic kangaroos. Why do we just receive repulsive Vegemite and nazist worthless garbage fire of this country? :((
I believe Razer was the "staunch" anti-holocaust-denier conspiracy theorist who lambasted even any hint that there might have been substantially less than 6 million Jews gassed to death at Auschwitz during World War 2. That's right, see below. So Razer, are you man enough to reassess? Or you know, provide actual links to "solid" references for your assertion re "every official authority"? Otherwise, you know, such assertions would be considered baseless. Or something... On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 11:51:40PM +1100, Jim wrote:
What is the difference between a cow and the Jewish holocaust? You can't milk a cow for 70 years. Oh, and a cow is real.
Only the most brainwashed idiots believe in the Holohoax.
Jim
_______
Video viewer comment: The Dolf "Jewish prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million Jews must “vanish” before the state of Israel can be formed. “You shall return minus 6 million.” That’s why Tom Segev, an Israeli historian, declared that the “6 million” is an attempt to transform the Holocaust story into state religion. Those six million, according to prophecy, had to disappear in “burning ovens”, which the judicial version of the Holocaust now authenticates. As a matter of fact, Robert B. Goldmann writes: “. . . without the Holocaust, there would be no Jewish State.”
A simple consequence: Given six million Jews gassed at Auschwitz who ended up in the “burning ovens” (the Greek word holocaust means burned offerings), therefore, the prophecies have now been “fulfilled” and Israel can become a “legitimate state”. Regarding the ‘six million’ number you should know the following: In the Hebrew text of the Torah prophesies, one can read “you shall return”. In the text the letter “V” or “VAU” is absent, as Hebrew does not have any numbers; the letter V stands for the number 6. Ben Weintraub, a religious scientist, learned from rabbis that the meaning of the missing letter means the number is ‘6 million’. The prophesy then reads: You will return, but with 6 million less. See Ben Weintraub: “The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism”, Cosmo Publishing, Washington 1995, page 3. The missing 6 million must be so before the Jews can return to the Promised Land. Jahweh sees this as a cleaning of the souls of the sinful people. The Jews must, on the return to the Promised Land, be clean — the cleaning shall be done in burning stokes.
As much as I despise religion, it plays a key role regarding the number in question. I am trying to show where the number 6 million originates, hence why these zealots propagate such a number. It provided the impetus and PR ammunition they needed to make their “gallant return” to the “promised land” at the war’s end establishing a racist/apartheid “Jewish state” called “Israel” in 1948. And this all just happens to fit the previously cited ancient Torah prophecy down to the very letter.
A consideration, of crematories, both old and new, must be made to determine the functionality of the German 'Kremas' at accomplishing their attributed tasks. For example, none of the ovens inspected and examined at all of the locations were designed for multiple corpse incineration. The modern cremation process uses large, high-powered furnaces are fueled by gas or propane which generates fire that reaches a temperature of around 2000°F. Cremating at the optimum temperature, the average weighted remains takes 2 to 2 ½ hours...
U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum states: The four gas chambers and crematoria constructed at Auschwitz-Birkenau after 1942 represent Nazi mass murder in its most industrialized form. Each of the four facilities could kill and incinerate more than 1,000 victims per day. Cremation specialists have confirmed that thousands of corpses could not possibly have been cremated every day at Auschwitz. The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations."
----- Original Message ----- From: Zenaan Harkness To: Jim Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 9:15 PM Subject: Re: The (Western) Empire: free speech, holocaust denial, jail in 14 countries
Hi Jim, if nothing else, this is just plain fun to listen to - that accent is enjoyable :)
Cheers Zen
----- Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> ----- Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 21:14:34 +1100 From: Zenaan Harkness To: Cypherpunks Subject: Re: The (Western) Empire: free speech, holocaust denial, jail in 14 countries
On Sun, Jan 08, 2017 at 09:03:28PM -0800, Razer wrote:
On 01/08/2017 08:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
What about that holocaust? What was the number of Jews holocausted in all the newspapers after WWI?
Jews fought in the German army in WWI stupid.
Well, not quite holocausted, but in 1915, which was 18 years before Hitler came into govt, precisely 6 million Jews were tortured, starved and incredibly badly mistreated.
Again in 1918. Again later still.
Don't believe it? The Sun (New York), The New York Times, etc, with a cool accent to go with it:
SIX MILLION JEWS 1915-1938 HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
Enjoy :)
That's right, here it is: ----- Forwarded message from Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> ----- Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 19:11:17 -0700 From: Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org List-Id: The Cypherpunks Mailing List <cypherpunks.lists.cpunks.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/options/cypherpunks>, <mailto:cypherpunks-request@lists.cpunks.org?subject=unsubscribe> Subject: Re: MainStream Media <-> Western Regime Media On 09/08/2016 03:53 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 01:00:15PM -0700, Sean Lynch wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:39 PM, John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
How about we just call it "bullshit" ? Obviously MSM is total fucking garbage....
While we're at it, whats up with the constant russia-insider.com links? This shit is pure propaganda, every bit as bad as any MSM....
Do you recall this question being asked twice before?
And do you recall my answer both times?
(reminder hint - it's also in the subject of some of the threads; also notice threading, and the ability to filter both subject lines and threads)
http://kremlintrolls.com/t/20150620-ri_footprint.html
http://www.stopfake.org/en/is-russia-insider-sponsored-by-a- russian-oligarch-with-the-ties-to-the-european-far-right/
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/04/bausman-and-fraud-at-russia-insider.html
http://www.fort-russ.com/2015/11/reading-between-lines-great-war-of.html
https://nobsrussia.com/tag/russia-insider/
"Long time readers and Russia watchers know that one of the most odious pro-Kremlin sites in existence is Russia Insider. Rather than create original content, most of their articles consist of material reprinted from other sources, typically Kremlin media outlets but also including sites featuring ideological racism and Holocaust denial. What better sources for a site that still uses the “Kiev Nazi junta” trope?"
Interesting that RI is associated with holocaust deniers, as I just realized yesterday that Zen is himself a holocaust denier when he posted a bunch of holocaust denial links.
Is holding that there is poor evidence for 6 million, and reasonable evidence for ~2.X million, and that the USA concentration camps were no better in some cases worse, the gulag another equally "fun" place to be, and the propaganda around "the Jewish Holocaust" which began well before WW2, and that "it's humans dude, we gotta fix us, all of us", is somehow a "bad" thing?
And is all that, and plenty more, and nuance and subtlety, all bundled into "holocaust denier" a suitable way to engage in constructive conversation?
"Conspiracy theorists" ... that's "original" :/
Regarding the number of Jews killed. Every official authority including Russian sources estimate the number of dead between 4-8 million. There's a lot of variance because of HOW it's decided whether the deaths were related to Nazi government action or not. It will NEVER be totally settled, so most just uses the 6 million number. As a more recent example there's dispute over the number of Iraqis killed by the US for similar reasons. International law holds that the invader is responsible for securing the invaded space and is responsible for all deaths including civilian on civilian murder etc. The US, ofc, doesn't buy that, or that they're responsible for the mass fratricide they cause arming ethnic groups against each other for it's own purposes. So the numbers will vary. As a Jew, what I don't want to see are Jews denying there were/are holocausts happening just as tragic every moment we're alive and for some reason the Nazi holocaust was somehow worse than, lets say, what the US did, is doing, to the indigenous people. Many Jews think like that. Ours is the only Holocaust. As my Bessarabian grandpa, chased across the region by the Bishkek pogroms of the late 1800s(?) would have said "Ishkabibble". Yiddish slang for nonsense, and the people pushing that POV on Jews HAVE an agenda, and funding for it from Zionists who hope the international community will let them have their way with Palestinians 'b/c holocaust'. Rr ----- End forwarded message -----
The onus is not on Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense. I didn't mention the curious fact about the jewish finns and the nazis to bolster your bullshit. Have a horrible fucking day :) John Ps my apologies for responding. I really ought to change my filters so your messages simply get erased rather than placed into my spam folder.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
I believe Razer was the "staunch" anti-holocaust-denier conspiracy theorist who lambasted even any hint that there might have been substantially less than 6 million Jews gassed to death at Auschwitz during World War 2. That's right, see below.
So Razer, are you man enough to reassess? Or you know, provide actual links to "solid" references for your assertion re "every official authority"?
Otherwise, you know, such assertions would be considered baseless.
Or something...
On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 11:51:40PM +1100, Jim wrote: What is the difference between a cow and the Jewish holocaust? You can't milk a cow for 70 years. Oh, and a cow is real.
Only the most brainwashed idiots believe in the Holohoax.
Jim
_______
Video viewer comment: The Dolf "Jewish prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million Jews must “vanish” before the state of Israel can be formed. “You shall return minus 6 million.” That’s why Tom Segev, an Israeli historian, declared that the “6 million” is an attempt to transform the Holocaust story into state religion. Those six million, according to prophecy, had to disappear in “burning ovens”, which the judicial version of the Holocaust now authenticates. As a matter of fact, Robert B. Goldmann writes: “. . . without the Holocaust, there would be no Jewish State.”
A simple consequence: Given six million Jews gassed at Auschwitz who ended up in the “burning ovens” (the Greek word holocaust means burned offerings), therefore, the prophecies have now been “fulfilled” and Israel can become a “legitimate state”. Regarding the ‘six million’ number you should know the following: In the Hebrew text of the Torah prophesies, one can read “you shall return”. In the text the letter “V” or “VAU” is absent, as Hebrew does not have any numbers; the letter V stands for the number 6. Ben Weintraub, a religious scientist, learned from rabbis that the meaning of the missing letter means the number is ‘6 million’. The prophesy then reads: You will return, but with 6 million less. See Ben Weintraub: “The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism”, Cosmo Publishing, Washington 1995, page 3. The missing 6 million must be so before the Jews can return to the Promised Land. Jahweh sees this as a cleaning of the souls of the sinful people. The Jews must, on the return to the Promised Land, be clean — the cleaning shall be done in burning stokes.
As much as I despise religion, it plays a key role regarding the number in question. I am trying to show where the number 6 million originates, hence why these zealots propagate such a number. It provided the impetus and PR ammunition they needed to make their “gallant return” to the “promised land” at the war’s end establishing a racist/apartheid “Jewish state” called “Israel” in 1948. And this all just happens to fit the previously cited ancient Torah prophecy down to the very letter.
A consideration, of crematories, both old and new, must be made to determine the functionality of the German 'Kremas' at accomplishing their attributed tasks. For example, none of the ovens inspected and examined at all of the locations were designed for multiple corpse incineration. The modern cremation process uses large, high-powered furnaces are fueled by gas or propane which generates fire that reaches a temperature of around 2000°F. Cremating at the optimum temperature, the average weighted remains takes 2 to 2 ½ hours...
U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum states: The four gas chambers and crematoria constructed at Auschwitz-Birkenau after 1942 represent Nazi mass murder in its most industrialized form. Each of the four facilities could kill and incinerate more than 1,000 victims per day. Cremation specialists have confirmed that thousands of corpses could not possibly have been cremated every day at Auschwitz. The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations."
----- Original Message ----- From: Zenaan Harkness To: Jim Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 9:15 PM Subject: Re: The (Western) Empire: free speech, holocaust denial, jail in 14 countries
Hi Jim, if nothing else, this is just plain fun to listen to - that accent is enjoyable :)
Cheers Zen
----- Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> ----- Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 21:14:34 +1100 From: Zenaan Harkness To: Cypherpunks Subject: Re: The (Western) Empire: free speech, holocaust denial, jail in 14 countries
On Sun, Jan 08, 2017 at 09:03:28PM -0800, Razer wrote:
On 01/08/2017 08:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
What about that holocaust? What was the number of Jews holocausted in all the newspapers after WWI?
Jews fought in the German army in WWI stupid.
Well, not quite holocausted, but in 1915, which was 18 years before Hitler came into govt, precisely 6 million Jews were tortured, starved and incredibly badly mistreated.
Again in 1918. Again later still.
Don't believe it? The Sun (New York), The New York Times, etc, with a cool accent to go with it:
SIX MILLION JEWS 1915-1938 HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
Enjoy :)
That's right, here it is:
----- Forwarded message from Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> ----- Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 19:11:17 -0700 From: Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org List-Id: The Cypherpunks Mailing List <cypherpunks.lists.cpunks.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/options/cypherpunks>, <mailto:cypherpunks-request@lists.cpunks.org?subject=unsubscribe> Subject: Re: MainStream Media <-> Western Regime Media
On 09/08/2016 03:53 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 01:00:15PM -0700, Sean Lynch wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:39 PM, John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
How about we just call it "bullshit" ? Obviously MSM is total fucking garbage....
While we're at it, whats up with the constant russia-insider.com links? This shit is pure propaganda, every bit as bad as any MSM....
Do you recall this question being asked twice before?
And do you recall my answer both times?
(reminder hint - it's also in the subject of some of the threads; also notice threading, and the ability to filter both subject lines and threads)
http://kremlintrolls.com/t/20150620-ri_footprint.html
http://www.stopfake.org/en/is-russia-insider-sponsored-by-a- russian-oligarch-with-the-ties-to-the-european-far-right/
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/04/bausman-and-fraud-at-russia-insider.html
http://www.fort-russ.com/2015/11/reading-between-lines-great-war-of.html
https://nobsrussia.com/tag/russia-insider/
"Long time readers and Russia watchers know that one of the most odious pro-Kremlin sites in existence is Russia Insider. Rather than create original content, most of their articles consist of material reprinted from other sources, typically Kremlin media outlets but also including sites featuring ideological racism and Holocaust denial. What better sources for a site that still uses the “Kiev Nazi junta” trope?"
Interesting that RI is associated with holocaust deniers, as I just realized yesterday that Zen is himself a holocaust denier when he posted a bunch of holocaust denial links.
Is holding that there is poor evidence for 6 million, and reasonable evidence for ~2.X million, and that the USA concentration camps were no better in some cases worse, the gulag another equally "fun" place to be, and the propaganda around "the Jewish Holocaust" which began well before WW2, and that "it's humans dude, we gotta fix us, all of us", is somehow a "bad" thing?
And is all that, and plenty more, and nuance and subtlety, all bundled into "holocaust denier" a suitable way to engage in constructive conversation?
"Conspiracy theorists" ... that's "original" :/
Regarding the number of Jews killed. Every official authority including Russian sources estimate the number of dead between 4-8 million.
There's a lot of variance because of HOW it's decided whether the deaths were related to Nazi government action or not. It will NEVER be totally settled, so most just uses the 6 million number.
As a more recent example there's dispute over the number of Iraqis killed by the US for similar reasons. International law holds that the invader is responsible for securing the invaded space and is responsible for all deaths including civilian on civilian murder etc.
The US, ofc, doesn't buy that, or that they're responsible for the mass fratricide they cause arming ethnic groups against each other for it's own purposes. So the numbers will vary.
As a Jew, what I don't want to see are Jews denying there were/are holocausts happening just as tragic every moment we're alive and for some reason the Nazi holocaust was somehow worse than, lets say, what the US did, is doing, to the indigenous people.
Many Jews think like that. Ours is the only Holocaust. As my Bessarabian grandpa, chased across the region by the Bishkek pogroms of the late 1800s(?) would have said "Ishkabibble". Yiddish slang for nonsense, and the people pushing that POV on Jews HAVE an agenda, and funding for it from Zionists who hope the international community will let them have their way with Palestinians 'b/c holocaust'.
Rr
----- End forwarded message -----
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 03:15:32PM -0500, John Newman wrote:
The onus is not on Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense. I didn't mention the curious fact about the jewish finns and the nazis to bolster your bullshit.
Evidently you did not watch that video from with the great accent. I know you're -capable- of relevant comments, and tbh I -do- like to hear when you actually have something to say ... however infrequent.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:00:35AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 03:15:32PM -0500, John Newman wrote:
The onus is not on Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense. I didn't mention the curious fact about the jewish finns and the nazis to bolster your bullshit.
Evidently you did not watch that video from with the great accent.
I know you're -capable- of relevant comments, and tbh I -do- like to hear when you actually have something to say ... however infrequent.
And doubly the point by the way - proving the non existence of something is a classic distraction-from-logic tactic - Razer asserts the holocaust -did- happen, therefore one would think providing evidence of such ought be almost trivial. But the doubly so part: I provide evidence of the 6 million Jewish souls PRIOR to WW2 (American newspapers by the way), thereby PROVING the -hoax- part of the holo-hoax, and you react (pretend to respond) with "It's not up to Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense". Now THAT'S some serious chutzpah! You Jew me thinks... Don't worry John, the light is inviting... and I hear dem ovens are warm and toasty in the winter time.<cackle>
I didn't watch any video you sent. I don't even read your emails except when one of my mail clients gets too smart for its own good and sucks your replies to a thread out of the spam folder, or I (moronically) open one up when double checking my spam, or someone else replies to you (and my apologies to those who have blocked you that see this reply - it will be my last). I've done enough reading on ww2 on my own, I don't need your nazi apologist garbage. It, and you, are of no use to me. I find you utterly repugnant. An overly credulous, racist, dictator worshipping fascist, and someone who thinks he is far more clever than his words and stated beliefs bear out. I can just see you laughing hilariously when you mangle my name as Newtman (and similar antics with others) in a fucking idiotic attempt to "trigger" someone. The only video you could ever send that I might take any interest in would have to be something along the lines of the recent episode with your idol Dick Spencer getting clocked, except with you as the victim. But honestly even that barely raises my interest. I don't think I would watch even for the lolz. You are a worthless egotistical nazi troll. My imapfilter config has been updated so that *@freedbms.net is now simply erased. Have the life you deserve Zen, the life you so fervently wish on others that aren't WASPY or aryan enough for you. In short, get fucked.
On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:00:35AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 03:15:32PM -0500, John Newman wrote: The onus is not on Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense. I didn't mention the curious fact about the jewish finns and the nazis to bolster your bullshit.
Evidently you did not watch that video from with the great accent.
I know you're -capable- of relevant comments, and tbh I -do- like to hear when you actually have something to say ... however infrequent.
And doubly the point by the way - proving the non existence of something is a classic distraction-from-logic tactic - Razer asserts the holocaust -did- happen, therefore one would think providing evidence of such ought be almost trivial.
But the doubly so part: I provide evidence of the 6 million Jewish souls PRIOR to WW2 (American newspapers by the way), thereby PROVING the -hoax- part of the holo-hoax, and you react (pretend to respond) with "It's not up to Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense".
Now THAT'S some serious chutzpah!
You Jew me thinks...
Don't worry John, the light is inviting... and I hear dem ovens are warm and toasty in the winter time.<cackle>
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:10:25AM -0500, John Newman wrote:
I didn't watch any video you sent. I don't even read your emails except when one of my mail clients gets too smart for its own good and sucks your replies to a thread out of the spam folder, or I (moronically) open one up when double checking my spam, or someone else replies to you (and my apologies to those who have blocked you that see this reply - it will be my last). I've done enough reading on ww2 on my own, I don't need your nazi apologist garbage. It, and you, are of no use to me.
So without appraising yourself of, wait for it, actual facts, you launch into rhetoric, ad-hominem attacks and accusation. "Classy" contribution here John, your "standard of discussion" is well noted. Zenaan
I find you utterly repugnant. An overly credulous, racist, dictator worshipping fascist, and someone who thinks he is far more clever than his words and stated beliefs bear out. I can just see you laughing hilariously when you mangle my name as Newtman (and similar antics with others) in a fucking idiotic attempt to "trigger" someone.
The only video you could ever send that I might take any interest in would have to be something along the lines of the recent episode with your idol Dick Spencer getting clocked, except with you as the victim. But honestly even that barely raises my interest. I don't think I would watch even for the lolz.
You are a worthless egotistical nazi troll. My imapfilter config has been updated so that *@freedbms.net is now simply erased.
Have the life you deserve Zen, the life you so fervently wish on others that aren't WASPY or aryan enough for you. In short, get fucked.
On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:00:35AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 03:15:32PM -0500, John Newman wrote: The onus is not on Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense. I didn't mention the curious fact about the jewish finns and the nazis to bolster your bullshit.
Evidently you did not watch that video from with the great accent.
I know you're -capable- of relevant comments, and tbh I -do- like to hear when you actually have something to say ... however infrequent.
And doubly the point by the way - proving the non existence of something is a classic distraction-from-logic tactic - Razer asserts the holocaust -did- happen, therefore one would think providing evidence of such ought be almost trivial.
But the doubly so part: I provide evidence of the 6 million Jewish souls PRIOR to WW2 (American newspapers by the way), thereby PROVING the -hoax- part of the holo-hoax, and you react (pretend to respond) with "It's not up to Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense".
Now THAT'S some serious chutzpah!
You Jew me thinks...
Don't worry John, the light is inviting... and I hear dem ovens are warm and toasty in the winter time.<cackle>
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:10 AM, John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote: <SNIP> (and my apologies to those who have blocked you that see this reply - it will be my last). No problem, dear. Sorry for being so late with answers. I'm not feeling well, so I'm just making researches and compiling material for posterior reading, with more attention and care. I don't like to respond messages when I'm not OK, so I make automatic actions (researches, light readings, etc) to improve my time use. In this moment, I'm feeling like Psyduck ( http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Psyduck_(Pok%C3%A9mon), unfortunately. :P I perfectly understand how you're feeling because I almost sent a lot of aggressive messages to the list. I was curious about your heads up and read part of the hostile messages in my trash. It's almost impossible to ignore for complete so much hate. :(( Tender kisses, my dear! Thank you very much for everything! :* <3 Ceci
On 01/23/2017 12:15 PM, John Newman wrote:
The onus is not on Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense. I didn't mention the curious fact about the jewish finns and the nazis to bolster your bullshit.
Have a horrible fucking day :)
John
Wouldn't have even seen this but you responded to 'it'. It isn't worth the response except to say the Hashtags #RIchardSpencer and #RichardSpencerPunchingBag are being suppressed by Twitter and FB because either A> They'd overtake #JustinBieber, B> some safe space neonazis and their liberal friends complained it would promote violence. I can tell by the failure of 'dropdown recommendations'. to materialize. Even on the name. I want to point out that all the liberals tsk tsked Richard Spencer being used as Punching Bag but the crickets chirped in their good german brains when a union organizer in Seattle got shot by one of those scumbuckets while trying to deescalate a fight... I KNOW which side liberals are on, and they're perhaps even an easier kill than neonazis, but I digress... I also want to point out it's NOT just a fine old American Tradition to kill fascists... France, 1980, Documentary: The Red Warriors, France's Antifascist street gang. They remind me a lot of UAWMF, which wasn't specifically antifascist... but we had OUR fun. https://youtu.be/EfDbTgb6uyc with background info about the Punk and alt-rock scene in Europe at the time to give everything context. This one's a 360px version with english subs but if you look around there a playlisted 5 part version on youtube @ 720px Teach the children well... Fascists have no rights. #GoodnightAltRight Oh yeah, and I have this very well-made flowchart. So simple even a neonazi can understand it. Rr
Ps my apologies for responding. I really ought to change my filters so your messages simply get erased rather than placed into my spam folder.
On 1/24/2017 10:52 AM, Razer wrote:
when a union organizer in Seattle got shot by one of those scumbuckets while trying to deescalate a fight.
Here is a collection of the latest on the incident. http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2017/01/21/man-shot-outside-milo-event-gun... tl;dr Leftists beat up a shitload of people. Guy who got shot had brass knuckles and a big knife. Employed the brass knuckles to beat up lots of people. Got shot as a result. Look at the video: A short middle aged Asian man in a yellow hat is minding his own business when an a big antifa races out of the crowd, attacks him and beats him up, one of the many, many, many attacks on real, suspected, alleged, or imaginary rightists that have been happening since Trump was elected. He chases the short guy in the yellow hat all over the place, a bunch of other antifa joined in or are about to join in, then the short Asian guy in the yellow hat shoots the antifa, or possibly a trump supporter in a red hat shoots the antifa to protect the short Asian guy in the yellow hat. The guy who got shot is not a union organizer, but a union enforcer. He is an antifa, one of the people in the left who maintain the ideological uniformity of the left by beating up and frequently murdering fellow leftists who deviate from the latest line. It is not yet clear who did the shooting, and whose side the Asian guy was on, but it is clear who was shot, and whose side he was on. Regardless of who did the shooting, the shooting was defense against a left wing ideological enforcer who was doing a bit of enforcement. The second amendment is the ultimate defense of the first. There have been thousands of vicious attacks on real and suspected Trump supporters, and very little of it is getting coverage.
On 01/23/2017 09:02 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
On 1/24/2017 10:52 AM, Razer wrote:
when a union organizer in Seattle got shot by one of those scumbuckets while trying to deescalate a fight.
Here is a collection of the latest on the incident.
http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2017/01/21/man-shot-outside-milo-event-gun...
tl;dr Leftists beat up a shitload of people. Guy who got shot had brass knuckles and a big knife. Employed the brass knuckles to beat up lots of people. Got shot as a result.
Look at the video:
A short middle aged Asian man in a yellow hat is minding his own business when an a big antifa races out of the crowd, attacks him and beats him up, one of the many, many, many attacks on real, suspected, alleged, or imaginary rightists that have been happening since Trump was elected. He chases the short guy in the yellow hat all over the place, a bunch of other antifa joined in or are about to join in, then the short Asian guy in the yellow hat shoots the antifa, or possibly a trump supporter in a red hat shoots the antifa to protect the short Asian guy in the yellow hat.
The guy who got shot is not a union organizer, but a union enforcer. He is an antifa, one of the people in the left who maintain the ideological uniformity of the left by beating up and frequently murdering fellow leftists who deviate from the latest line.
It is not yet clear who did the shooting, and whose side the Asian guy was on, but it is clear who was shot, and whose side he was on. Regardless of who did the shooting, the shooting was defense against a left wing ideological enforcer who was doing a bit of enforcement.
The second amendment is the ultimate defense of the first.
There have been thousands of vicious attacks on real and suspected Trump supporters, and very little of it is getting coverage.
Well - why don't you announce your own one person white pride march in Berkely so you can join your leaders. http://crustpunks.com/images/followyourleader2.png also enjou
On 1/24/2017 10:52 AM, Razer wrote:
a union organizer in Seattle got shot by one of those scumbuckets while trying to deescalate a fight
We saw on video, several videos, this union organizer pursue and attack a man much smaller than himself, and with the aid of his brass knuckles and several of his friends beat the crap out of that man. He was in possession of brass knuckles and large knife, and since the brass knuckles saw plenty of use on the video, I suppose the knife was also used on less public occasions, that being the usual way the left does political organization and maintains ideological uniformity. The reason people are all quiet about this incident, while they made a big deal about George Zimmerman shooting a small time mugger and burglar, is that it was all recorded on video from multiple angles. There is absolutely no doubt whatever that whoever the man being attacked was, and whoever fired the gun, the man who got shot was committing a felony, was shot to prevent him from continuing to commit that felony, and is a leftist political enforcer whose job it is to enforce leftism the way it is always enforced: by violence.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:22:14PM +1000, James A. Donald wrote:
On 1/24/2017 10:52 AM, Razer wrote:
a union organizer in Seattle got shot by one of those scumbuckets while trying to deescalate a fight
We saw on video, several videos, this union organizer pursue and attack a man much smaller than himself, and with the aid of his brass knuckles and several of his friends beat the crap out of that man.
He was in possession of brass knuckles and large knife, and since the brass knuckles saw plenty of use on the video, I suppose the knife was also used on less public occasions, that being the usual way the left does political organization and maintains ideological uniformity.
The reason people are all quiet about this incident, while they made a big deal about George Zimmerman shooting a small time mugger and burglar, is that it was all recorded on video from multiple angles. There is absolutely no doubt whatever that whoever the man being attacked was, and whoever fired the gun, the man who got shot was committing a felony, was shot to prevent him from continuing to commit that felony, and is a leftist political enforcer whose job it is to enforce leftism the way it is always enforced: by violence.
Some are calling this the American Maidan. Certainly a lot of striking similarities - Soros modus operandi. See here: http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/01/its-begun-americas-maidan-rears-its.html
On 1/24/2017 12:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Some are calling this the American Maidan. Certainly a lot of striking similarities - Soros modus operandi. See here: http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/01/its-begun-americas-maidan-rears-its.html
Yes, they are attempting yet another color revolution in the seat of empire itself. But what happened at the Milo protest tells me it is just not going to get off the ground. You cannot make a revolution in the name of the people when the actual people are armed and dangerous.
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 04:52:11PM -0800, Razer wrote:
It isn't worth the response except to say the Hashtags #RIchardSpencer and #RichardSpencerPunchingBag are being suppressed by Twitter and FB because either A> They'd overtake #JustinBieber, B> some safe space neonazis and their liberal friends complained it would promote violence. I can tell by the failure of 'dropdown recommendations'. to materialize. Even on the name.
Yep, Google and Facebook 'dropdown recommendations' will definitely tell you about the truth of a situation. Not. Stunning insight as usual there Razer...
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 04:52:11PM -0800, Razer wrote:
Teach the children well... Fascists have no rights.
Indeed Razer, indeed. Your ideology is very clear. "When they came for ..." and all - meaningless to a Liberal Lefty.
Did I hear a New Zealand shitbird chirping something that sounded like "Liberal Lefty"? (Really need to stop browsing my junk folder at riseup and just shitcan this shit-for-brains) Rr
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 08:53:17PM -0800, Razer wrote: ...
Rr
Still can't bring yourself to watch that youtube vid? Here's a teaser - it's a series of slow-pan, zoom in and zoom out, newspaper coverages from pre-WWII. 'Tis rather interesting, this resistance you display - once again focusing on the trivial ("Liberal Lefty") to avoid the substantial. Your call Razer, your call...
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 08:53:17PM -0800, Razer wrote:
Did I hear a New Zealand shitbird chirping something that sounded like
"Liberal Lefty"?
It would perhaps be surprising for anyone to name you a conservative protectionist. Methinks the THC precludes noting the difference between Liberal and liberal. Bong on,
On Sun, Jan 08, 2017 at 09:03:28PM -0800, Razer wrote:
On 01/08/2017 08:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
What about that holocaust? What was the number of Jews holocausted in all the newspapers after WWI?
Jews fought in the German army in WWI stupid.
Finnish Jews fought in WWII along side the Nazis against Russia in an attempt to recoup some of the land they lost in the Winter War. They had field synagogues and everything. John
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