On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:44:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:

On 10/28/20, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/27/spacex-starlink-service-priced-at-99-a-month...

Good for remote / mobile locations, but costs much more than 4G / 5G tether.

Cypherpunks should still trench out their own p2p 1Gbit symmetric fiber with their communities for under $50.

Ack. The cheapest way to achieve this is volunteer groups - you a techy or two, DialBeforeYouDig so you don't trench some expensive existing line cutting mistakes (really, keep it super clean!), and if your town, or your town and a few other towns come together, it becomes cheaper to buy the trenching/ boring equipment rather than hire. When people work together, magic happens. Matthew 18 "When two or three gather ... in my name" - find others who will live that higher intention with you, the "higher" intention to actually do something mostly selflessly - just think, most of the work trenching, polishing fibre cable ends, etc, will benefit others, not you - so you can only achieve this WITH that higher intention. Good luck,

On 2020-10-29 13:44, grarpamp wrote:

On 10/28/20, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/27/spacex-starlink-service-priced-at-99-a-month...

Good for remote / mobile locations, but costs much more than 4G / 5G tether.

Musk is not aiming at people in the cities, and probably will not aim at them until he get forty thousand satellites up. His initial target is underserved locations, and with only eight hundred satellites up, cities would overwhelm his capability. Eight hundred is the bare minimum needed to provide rural service in northerly areas. He is hoping to launch another fifteen hundred satellites in the next year, which should suffice for world wide service, but only in thinly populated regions, the countryside, the exurbs, and small towns - quite small towns. He does not intend to provide substantial service to urban centers ever. Fiber and 4G makes more sense in dense areas. In city centers, Starlink will be a high priced premium service for people who want short ping times to the other side of the earth. But, once he gets enough satellites up, it is going to make economic sense to put modest sized server clusters out in the middle of nowhere, and going to be easier to have a multiple server cluster around the world that acts like a single large server cluster from the point of view of its customers.