How women bond in sex - oxytocin - On the re-establishment of child marriage
So everybody's favourite Neon-Nazi Andrew Anglin, is calling for "reinstating child marriage". Read it first before shouting an ad-hom, as he's advocating a return (in this sense at least) to a bygone era of the West which is not so long ago, where the social mores, expectations and conversations created the possibility for marriages where husband and wife can actually bond with one another - in an emotional, bio/physiological way (notwithstanding "pick your religion"). https://dailystormer.name/self-help-sunday-being-an-alpha-male-and-or-a-real... As most know, modern marriages (as well as "de facto" relationships) are not working, in the sense that divorce and separation is the dominant experience after (at best (for most)) a few short years. This is consistently leaving children with broken families, torn between one or another parent, usually left primarily with the mother only and too often used as a bargaining chip between the "failed" parents. There's plenty of stats on all this, and "happiness" and "success" in life for children from various families. Puberty is the traditional "generally accepted" minimum age for marriage in "Western Christian" history: Does the Bible say what is the proper age for marriage? https://www.gotquestions.org/marriage-age.html Question: "Does the Bible say what is the proper age for marriage?" Answer: The Bible does not specify any particular age requirement for a person to be married; rather, it speaks in general terms of marriage being for those who are “grown up” (see Ruth 1:12–13). Both the language and culture of the Bible strongly support the idea that puberty, at bare minimum, is a condition that must be met before becoming someone’s spouse. This fits with the historical purpose of marriage, which has always been about conceiving and rearing children. Scriptural evidence indicates that those too young for childbearing are not candidates for marriage, though there is no explicit age given in the Bible. It is reasonable to look at the practices of ancient Judaism for cultural considerations on the proper age for marriage. According to tradition, boys were not considered “men,” and therefore not marriageable, until the age of 13. Girls were not considered “women” until age 12. These ages more or less correspond to the onset of puberty. While those ages might seem too young to us, they are not unusual ages for getting married, historically. It has only been within the last century or so that the average age of getting married has drifted into the late twenties and early thirties. … The bottom line is that delaying adulthood, as we do today in the west, does not delay puberty - and the sexual drives that accompany puberty and which most all of us have experienced during our early years ... ... and in today's "promiscuous" "Western" society with immediate access to unlimited pornography and inexpensive and readily available contraception, the natural desire of young humans to experience sex is very easy to fulfil, and therefore ... ... therefore for women who "ride the cock carousel" for 12 or more years before "settling down" and "thinking about a family", there is no more real opportunity to bond (sexually) with a mate and therefore no possibility for stable family (for say 16 years "for the kids"): Damaged Women http://outcastsuperstar.blogspot.com/2013/10/damaged-women.html I live in America and something is terribly wrong with most of the women living here. Something about Westernized culture is destroying the most wonderful attributes of women and turning them into pseudo-men with worst qualities of female gender. Many other threads have touched on many of the manifest problems- self centered, self entitled, gold-digging, sociopathic- Was it the media? Yes, to an extent- it introduced them to insidious, damaging behavior and poor role-models- but that was not the impetus that made good girls go bad. The real culprit is never talked about. Women become truly broken/ damaged after they squander their VIRGINITY. It is apparently misogynistic to point out the difference between men and women, but here is a plain example of where men and women can never be equal. Women just are not equipped mentally or biologically to handle recreational sex in the same way that men do. The first time a women has sex, a chemical- oxytocin- is released in her brain that causes "pair bonding" to occur- its same chemical that is released when she is giving birth which causes mother to fall in love with baby. This is why first loves are always so intense. Women are admittedly- more emotional creatures, more sensitive to emotional pain- which is why when that first love ends, it is extremely devastating. After that first traumatic break up, a woman promises herself she will never allow herself to get that close to a man again, for fear that he may hurt her as badly as the first one did. Yet, every time she has sex with new men, that oxytocin will try to get her to bond with new man, but the women will now fight against that impulse- they don't want to bond, they want to f*ck. This causes a sort of sociopathic backlash to occur. After a series of men, it will become apparent that she can no longer bond significantly with ANYONE. The woman then becomes completely self serving- she doesn't trust that anyone will ever truly be there for her, so she has only herself to rely on, men are simply a resource to exploit, or a fun ride on cock carousel. Instead of finding meaning and pleasure in the joys of a close, intimate relationship, she seeks thrills of new sexual experiences... This only lasts so long. A woman's sexual capital is highest when she's young, and as she gets older, her options get less and less. She peaked early in life, and at the tender age of 30, she likely has another 50 years of it all being "downhill." In wiser societies, a huge amount of consideration was placed on a girl's virginity because they knew what would happen when a women's sexuality was left unleashed- it not only would cause ultimate ruin to the women, but the society at large, because a sexually deviant women is a social cancer, causing problems among both men and women. Women were placed in arranged marriages because- hell- let's face it, women are terrible at choosing their partners, as evidenced by 70% marriage failure rate of marriage. The traditional view of marriage held that a women would give her best years of her left to her husband, in return for him taking care of her when she got older. This is the original set up that held families together- a man was also invested not to leave the aging wife despite his steadily maturing sexual capital, as they had kids together and the kids would be very angry at that move. Women now want it that they get to slut it up first when they are young with all the the sexually exciting alpha bad boys, and then eventually settle down with a boring, economically viable beta. They refuse to see that at that point, there are broken beyond repair. Their sexual histories and memories do not go away after they are married, and those ghosts of the past will haunt her and ruin any stable relationship she could have had in the future. … Also: A Woman’s Body May Incorporate DNA From The Semen Of Casual Sex Partners https://www.rooshv.com/a-womans-body-may-incorporate-dna-from-the-semen-of-c... 12 Years A Hottie http://www.returnofkings.com/131951/12-years-a-hottie … “Men do not have a sell-by date, but women do.” … “today, the price of pussy continues to be at all-time lows (if you avoid marriage)” … “In the foreseeable future we will continue to see economic decline, waning birth rates, rising divorce, men in poverty, increase in single moms, violent crime, married/single or middle-aged female teachers sleeping their students or teens, increase in suicides. This all will continue if our culture does not acknowledge human sexual dimorphism and the fact that men and women are different (not equal from a biological standpoint).” SO! Listen up, women! : a) Recreational sex and resultant genetic deposit into your brain. b) Oxytocin release. c) “Can no longer bond significantly with ANYONE.” That's the wrap! Some men (probably many, perhaps most) also want the experience of a woman who bonds to them, and that longer-term relationship which is considered by many (and science) to be very functional for the first 14 years at least for our children. So for females to marry young (say at or around puberty) is at least one historically effective mechanism to handle the problem of those who would "ride the cock carousel" and result in "broken" families. Females preserving their virginity - or rather, not shoving ANYTHING up there until you marry (to preserve that oxytocin bonding hit for your husband/ long term father of your children) - is another mechanism, although apparently almost impossible for young women to do in THIS day and age... Average Age of Marriage Throughout History https://study.com/academy/lesson/average-age-of-marriage-throughout-history.... … The Medieval and Modern World One of the first times we see a major concern about the age difference between couples is in England in 1275 CE. In a law prohibiting rape, it was also declared illegal to 'ravish a maiden' within a certain age, with or without her permission. That age was determined by jurist Sir Edward Coke to mean the age of marriage, which at the time was 12. This still seems young, but it's one of the first times we see a strict age limit placed on marriage or sexual interaction. This was the beginning of our modern association between the age of marriage and age of consent. Good luck and create your world folks, our society and the future for our children depends on it.
Nice of the Nazi to quote ancient jewish law. But its important to get it right.
It is reasonable to look at the practices of ancient Judaism for cultural considerations on the proper age for marriage. According to tradition, boys were not considered “men,” and therefore not marriageable, until the age of 13. Girls were not considered “women” until age 12."
Girls are Bas Mitzvah-ed at 14. I'm SURE the rest of this non-topical-to-this-list garbage is just as full of half-truths, distortions, and outright lies. That's how nazis roll... Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
It is reasonable to look at the practices of ancient Judaism for cultural considerations on the proper age for marriage. According to tradition, boys were not considered “men,” and therefore not marriageable, until the age of 13. Girls were not considered “women” until age 12."
The supposedly Jewish tradition that girls were not women is far from ancient. Nineteenth century at earliest. Ancient Judaism, fourth century, had no lower age limit on marriage, and generally dealt with sexual misconduct by shotgun marrying the offenders, ("sanctifying" them) regardless of age, including female offenders as young as three. It was youthful male offenders who were excused from marriage on the grounds that it was obviously physically impossible for them to have done what they seemed to be doing. On 11/12/2018 07:29, Razer wrote:
Girls are Bas Mitzvah-ed at 14.
That supposedly ancient tradition is twenty first century. It is not even twentieth century. Rabbis are always inventing ancient traditions as of last week, and falsely attributing them to some ancient source. The Sadducees were complaining about this rabbinical creativity back in second temple times, and the rabbis have been at it ever since the Maccabees lost their grip, endlessly and rapidly re-inventing the past of judaism, usually in accord with current year values.
Fourth century Jewish position on marriage at extremely early ages: If a female older than three gets together with a nonkin adult male behind closed doors, assume sex took place, assume it was enthusiastically consensual, break out the shotgun and announce the wedding. In the nineteenth century or early twentieth century this tradition ran afoul of ever tightening age of consent laws, whereupon they reinvented their past doctrine.
On 11/12/2018 05:34, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
It is reasonable to look at the practices of ancient Judaism for cultural considerations on the proper age for marriage. According to tradition, boys were not considered “men,” and therefore not marriageable, until the age of 13. Girls were not considered “women” until age 12.
This supposedly ancient tradition seems to be nineteenth century with some rather thin justifications claiming it is twelfth century. It is clearly post biblical. It was not in effect during the fourth century, when in the event of real or reasonably suspected sexual misconduct, the offenders got "sanctified" like it or not. Women rather like serial monogamy. If women get sexual choice, if they are free to always be on the prowl to trade up, rather than stuck with the first guy they have sex with, you get women defecting on men, men respond by defecting on women first (spin plates) in the reasonable expectation that women are likely to defect on them, so you always need a few spares in the kitty. So, have to enforce on women the old testament rule that they are stuck with the first guy they have sex with. If you enforce that rule, then in an alarmingly large minority of cases, you will find that the first guy they have sex with, they have sex with him at a disturbingly young age, Disney princess age, well before puberty. Thus societies that attempt to enforce that rule tend to lock up their daughters starting one or two years before Disney princess age, but this fails surprisingly often, so if you attempt enforce virgin marriage, you really have to allow marriage long before puberty in problem cases, and indeed quite forcefully impose marriage long before puberty in a minority of problem cases.
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