BUENOS AIRES — Argentina is so used to celebrating immigration as a cornerstone of society that a 19th-century saying — to govern is to populate — remains in use to this day.
But in an abrupt shift coinciding with the immigration restrictions put in place by the Trump administration, President Mauricio Macri has issued a decree curbing immigration to Argentina, with his government declaring that newcomers from poorer countries in Latin America bring crime.
The measures announced by Mr. Macri in recent days made it much easier to deport immigrants and restrict their entry, prompting irate comparisons to President Trump and igniting a fierce debate over immigration.
“A decree like this scares people,” said Arfang Diedhiou, 33, a Senegalese immigrant who runs his own clothing store here in the capital, Buenos Aires. “It came out just after what Trump did, a coincidence that seems very strange to me.”
Argentina’s president, the son of an immigrant, has echoed some of Mr. Trump’s “America First” theme, making it clear that his “first concern” should be “caring for Argentines, caring for ourselves.”
“We cannot continue to allow criminals to keep choosing Argentina as a place to commit offenses,” Mr. Macri said during a news conference.
His decree has also rekindled criticism of his ties to the American president, whom he calls a friend. In the 1980s, Mr. Macri worked with his father, an Italian immigrant and industrial magnate, on a real estate project in New York that the family ended up selling to Mr. Trump.
Mr. Macri’s immigration measures, while not as far-reaching as Mr. Trump’s decision to halt refugees from around the world and freeze visas from seven predominantly Muslim nations, are raising diplomatic tensions in the region. Some South American leaders are attacking what they view as an attempt to mimic Mr. Trump’s immigration policies and nurture xenophobic sentiment.
“Brothers, Latin American presidents, we can’t follow the immigration policies of the North,” President Evo Morales of Bolivia said.
But opinion polls in Argentina showed widespread support for limiting immigration, and some say the new decree does not go far enough. One right-wing congressman is even calling for a wall to be built on the border with Bolivia.
Claudio Suárez, 65, a worker at a bakery in Buenos Aires, called the immigration curbs “fantastic.”
On Sat, 04 Feb 2017 16:48:22 -0500 Anti Fag <antifag@protonmail.com> wrote:
BUENOS AIRES — Argentina is so used to celebrating immigration as a cornerstone of society that a 19th-century saying — to govern is to populate — remains in use to this day.
source is the new york times.... anyway, seems like the americunts from the pentagon give direct orders to the supreme clown of argentina. No doubt the local right wingers are cocksucker of the american empire. On the other hand, it's easier to cross argentine borders than to take a local bus in buenos aires...
On Sat, 04 Feb 2017 16:48:22 -0500 Anti Fag <antifag@protonmail.com> wrote:
BUENOS AIRES — Argentina is so used to celebrating immigration as a cornerstone of society that a 19th-century saying — to govern is to populate — remains in use to this day.
I'd bet a couple of cents that the journos who wrote that don't have a clue about the origin of the quote. It is not a 'saying'. There are and were fake libertarians everywhere and 19th century argentine fake libertarians were among the best in the world. Or at least the most fraudulent ones. One of the leading fake libertarians was this lawyer called alberdi, who wote something titled "Bases y puntos de partida para la organización política de la República de Argentina" - something like : foundations for organzing the argentine republic. (the psycho-scumbag was one of the authors of the 1853 constitution) The book has lots of nuggets, but here's one of the most remarkable. "Poblar es civilizar cuando se puebla con gente civilizada, es decir, con pobladores de la Europa civilizada. Por eso he dicho en la Constitución que el gobierno debe fomentar la inmigración europea. Pero poblar no es civilizar, sino embrutecer, cuando se puebla con chinos y con indios de Asia y con negros de África. Poblar es apestar, corromper, degenerar, envenenar un país, cuando en vez de poblarlo con la flor de la población trabajadora de Europa, se le puebla con la basura de la Europa atrasada o menos culta." "to populate [a country] is to make it civilized, if the immigrants are civilized, that is, if they are people from civilized europe. That's why I said in the constitution that the government must promote european immigration. But populating doesn't entail civilizing but instead dulling and making brutish if the immigrants are chinese and 'indians' from asia and blacks from africa. Populating means to foul up, to corrupt, to make degenerate, to poison a country if instead of populating it with the best of the working european stock it is populated with the garbage from backwards and less cultivated (regions of) europe." Yep, I'm not making that up. And as a matter of fact, the argentine constitution still says "Articulo 25o.- El Gobierno federal fomentara la inmigracion europea;" govt will promote immigration from europe http://www.constitution.org/cons/argentin.htm
The USA set up a slave-owning aristocracy to govern, still lives as US Senate and Presidency backed by "civilian-controlled" military, police and spies, with brain-washed informants to rat neighbors, as seen here in spades. Standard operating procedure to copy the oppressor, as if Argentina is not angling for Trump's (and USA's) increased lucrative bribery to solons, but most of all for military, police and spy largesse. Hardly original, Trump's diplomatic and military agenda aims to buy and threaten foreign leaders, continuing the 274-year history of the US's primary economic, political and educational goals have been just that, from Indian genocide and Civil Wars to WW1 and WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Middle East endless war, Israel the instigator and testing ground for ever more lethal mass killing technology., and nearly every president has cooked up a war to boost the economy and maintain political power -- both parties aggressors in pay to natsecker industry of gov-com-org-edu-faith. Which affirms why cryptographers and comseckers have always been handmaidens and informants for secret, unaccountable natsec. As seen ubiquitously on ICANN, ATT, Verizon, Silicon Valley and Alley, and for sure enablers of weak crypto promoted by flashy careerist proponents of porous privacy. Pretty good record of public crypto deception operation in the cpunk archives and those duplicitous fora off-sprung from the demon seed. At 10:41 PM 2/4/2017, you wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2017 16:48:22 -0500 Anti Fag <antifag@protonmail.com> wrote:
BUENOS AIRES Argentina is so used to celebrating immigration aas a cornerstone of society that a 19th-century saying to govern iss to populate remains in use to this day.
I'd bet a couple of cents that the journos who wrote that don't have a clue about the origin of the quote. It is not a 'saying'.
There are and were fake libertarians everywhere and 19th century argentine fake libertarians were among the best in the world. Or at least the most fraudulent ones.
One of the leading fake libertarians was this lawyer called alberdi, who wote something titled
"Bases y puntos de partida para la organización polÃtica de la República de Argentina" - something like : foundations for organzing the argentine republic. (the psycho-scumbag was one of the authors of the 1853 constitution)
The book has lots of nuggets, but here's one of the most remarkable.
"Poblar es civilizar cuando se puebla con gente civilizada, es decir, con pobladores de la Europa civilizada. Por eso he dicho en la Constitución que el gobierno debe fomentar la inmigración europea. Pero poblar no es civilizar, sino embrutecer, cuando se puebla con chinos y con indios de Asia y con negros de Ãfrica. Poblar es apestar, corromper, degenerar, envenenar un paÃs, cuando en vez de poblarlo con la flor de la población trabajadora de Europa, se le puebla con la basura de la Europa atrasada o menos culta."
"to populate [a country] is to make it civilized, if the immigrants are civilized, that is, if they are people from civilized europe. That's why I said in the constitution that the government must promote european immigration. But populating doesn't entail civilizing but instead dulling and making brutish if the immigrants are chinese and 'indians' from asia and blacks from africa. Populating means to foul up, to corrupt, to make degenerate, to poison a country if instead of populating it with the best of the working european stock it is populated with the garbage from backwards and less cultivated (regions of) europe."
Yep, I'm not making that up. And as a matter of fact, the argentine constitution still says
"Articulo 25o.- El Gobierno federal fomentara la inmigracion europea;" govt will promote immigration from europe
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