This is ridiculous. There is ZERO obligation for anyone to unlock their phone anymore than unlocking your house. If any "law enforcement" officer wants to insist on such, THEY BETTER HAVE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER. On 7/18/18, John Newman wrote:

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 06:37:19PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:

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https://gizmodo.com/florida-man-jailed-for-failing-to-unlock-his-phone-18276... http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/judge-jails-man-for-failing-to-unlo... https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalDiscussion/comments/8yz2za/a_man_got_6mont... https://old.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/8y8yd1/man_faces_6_months_in_flori... https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/8yx73q/judge_jails_defendant_for_fail... https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/8ypu6s/guy_gets_tossed_in_jail_... https://old.reddit.com/r/law/comments/8z9zjr/judge_jails_man_for_180_days_fo... https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/07/15/2012230/judge-jails-defendent-for-fa... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17547562 https://old.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/8z63lz/us_courts_can_force_you_to_... http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/rodriguez-v-united-states/

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4597748/Emergency-Writ.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4597747/Search-Warrant-and-Affida...

In a Tampa courtroom, Judge Gregory Holder held William Montanez in contempt of court for failure to unlock a mobile device. What led to this was a frightening slippery slope that threatens our Fourth Amendment rights to the core. Montanez was stopped for failing to yield properly. After being pulled over, the officer asked to search his car; Montanez refused, so the officer held him until a drug dog was brought in to give the officer enough probable cause to search the vehicle. They found a misdemeanor amount of marijuana, which they used to arrest Montenez, but they asked to search his two cellphones, which he also refused. They were able to secure a warrant for those as well, but Montenez claimed he had forgotten his password. The result: Montanez is being held in contempt of court and is serving a six-month jail sentence.

"I don't know the code, sir," he stated. So the judge found him in civil contempt and threw him in jail.

ARG! Fucking disgusting. At least he didn't have a fingerprint or "FaceID" unlock setup, or they could've manhandled him into unlocking it biometrically. So, basically: keep using a PIN code (which can still be broken, but is rather a PITA for the pigs).

John

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On 7/18/18, juan wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:00:51 -0500 "\\0xDynamite" wrote:

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This is ridiculous. There is ZERO obligation for anyone to unlock their phone anymore than unlocking your house. If any "law enforcement" officer wants to insist on such, THEY BETTER HAVE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.

ha ha ha

If ever they don't have an executive order, get the names of all of the people involved, and you can write a felony charge against them (since the amendments are federal laws) and submit it to the Judge. If they are unwilling to provide legal identification, you can charge them with contempt also. Get their affiliation and pictures if you can to provide evidence in court. Marcos, JD

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 03:03:32PM -0500, \0xDynamite wrote:

On 7/18/18, juan wrote:

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On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:00:51 -0500 "\\0xDynamite" wrote:

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This is ridiculous. There is ZERO obligation for anyone to unlock their phone anymore than unlocking your house. If any "law enforcement" officer wants to insist on such, THEY BETTER HAVE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.

ha ha ha

If ever they don't have an executive order, get the names of all of the people involved, and you can write a felony charge against them (since the amendments are federal laws) and submit it to the Judge. If they are unwilling to provide legal identification, you can charge them with contempt also. Get their affiliation and pictures if you can to provide evidence in court.

Marcos, JD

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