Re: We are being manipulated to engage in conflict, and seem unable to resist. How should this be handled?
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If you "fell for it" long ago and are now deeply immersed in it as your only way to survive, personally I like murdering the people who force me to murder as a celebration of being able to think about stopping. On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 11:47 AM coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
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outrage is the currency of the modern attention economy.
when someone is spewing vitriol and hyperbole to animate you into action, they are manipulating you - targeting your emotional response rather than cognitive reason.
don't fall for it! :)
best regards,
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:47:20 +0000 coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
when someone is spewing vitriol and hyperbole to animate you into action, they are manipulating you
notice that 'spewing vitriol and hyperbole' is the very 'description' a US nazi uses to refer to objective description of his actions. people can check the archives to see to what degree coderman is a US govt agent who explicitly advocates censorship on this 'cypherpunk' list.
We are being manipulated to engage in conflict
no, you 'see' conflict when somebody doesn't robotically agree with all the spam on the list.
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 12:26 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:47:20 +0000 coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
when someone is spewing vitriol and hyperbole to animate you into action, they are manipulating you
notice that 'spewing vitriol and hyperbole' is the very 'description' a US nazi uses to refer to objective description of his actions.
What you mea is that all of us are doing these same things? people can check the archives to see to what degree coderman is a
US govt agent who explicitly advocates censorship on this 'cypherpunk' list.
Stop censoring productive dialogue by replying to it with nothing but emotional, blame-oriented, opinions! Re: "snitch jacketing"
We are being manipulated to engage in conflict
no, you 'see' conflict when somebody doesn't robotically agree with all the spam on the list.
I feel so full of conflict when I read what you wrote here. Don't fall for our spam, punk. We're just trying to get a rise out of you. It's not about you; it's our own issues we're dealing with when we give you this shit.
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:45:00 -0400 Karl Semich <0xloem@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 12:26 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:47:20 +0000 coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
when someone is spewing vitriol and hyperbole to animate you into action, they are manipulating you
notice that 'spewing vitriol and hyperbole' is the very 'description' a US nazi uses to refer to objective description of his actions.
What you mea is that all of us are doing these same things?
I don't know about you, but I am not a US subject defending US criminals. Rest of posters tho...
people can check the archives to see to what degree coderman is a
US govt agent who explicitly advocates censorship on this 'cypherpunk' list.
Stop censoring productive dialogue by replying to it with nothing but emotional, blame-oriented, opinions!
Sorry, you are redefining censorship into absurdity while at the same time ignoring people who crassly support real censorship - like coderman.
productive dialogue
there is no productive dialogue on this list. Only US technofascist propaganda, trumpofascist propaganda, even your own 'lefty' pro US govt propaganda, etc.
Re: "snitch jacketing"
We are being manipulated to engage in conflict
no, you 'see' conflict when somebody doesn't robotically agree with all the spam on the list.
I feel so full of conflict when I read what you wrote here.
Don't fall for our spam, punk. We're just trying to get a rise out of you.
Well, I can ignore the spam, and then this list would become simply a mirror/copy/repository of spam/copypasta. Would you be happier if no one pointed out what this list actually is? (a mirror of propaganda from a bunch of joogle selected sources).
It's not about you; it's our own issues we're dealing with when we give you this shit.
thing is, your 'issues' affect the whole world. See for instance bell's explict calls for the arch criminal turd musk to engage in electronic warfare against enemies of the US military. Latest target : the phillipines.
On 3/26/21, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote: <ow>
Don't fall for our spam, punk. We're just trying to get a rise out of you.
Well, I can ignore the spam, and then this list would become simply a mirror/copy/repository of spam/copypasta. Would you be happier if no one pointed out what this list actually is? (a mirror of propaganda from a bunch of joogle selected sources).
Eh, we're fucking with you cause you have no clue about what you are doing. <i'm at the end of my rope here for a bit. thanks for relating with you heart, take care of coderman and cecilia for me.>
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