Cypherpunks nameserver changes will happen Wednesday
Dearest colleagues, Riad and I are planning on coordinating some changes to the DNS entries for the cpunks.org domain, sometime during US business hours on May 1. Basically, we will be splitting out lists.cpunks.org (the PGLAF.org server, which I run and is where this list lives) as a subdomain in the DNS, separately from the rest of cpunks.org (which Riad runs, and mostly redirects to lists.cpunks.org anyway). If the change goes well, nothing noticeable will happen and emails to the list will continue to flow. If the change goes poorly, there might be some email messages that bounce or are delayed. I will send an email update to the list when the change is done, to test that things are working. Once things have been working for a few days, I will then make some updates to the DNS records to improve adherence to modern email anti-spam "standards" (DKIM, SPF and DMARC). This should cut down on messages that are quarantined or rejected by many large email providers. Those anti-spam measures are a good topic for discussion. They have some merit in identifying the validity of the servers that messages come from. But they don't help with validating the sender, or non-repudiation, or other features that have existed at least as long as PGP. It's not easy to run your own mail transport agent these days. Here is a little article from some other victims of the behemoth ISPs: https://www.tablix.org/~avian/blog/archives/2019/04/google_is_eating_our_mai... Best wishes for a Happy May Day, to all. - Greg
quarantined or rejected by many large email providers.
Those anti-spam measures are a good topic for discussion. They have some merit in identifying the validity of the servers that messages come from.
But they don't help with validating the sender, or non-repudiation, or other features that have existed at least as long as PGP.
Begging the State to validate you destroys all valuable anonprivacy that humanity needs, do not do that, instead retain validation of yourself soley as you deem useful to you.
It's not easy to run your own mail transport agent these days. Here is a little article from some other victims of the behemoth ISPs:
The better solution is to simply fight back... blacklist google, yahoo, microsoft, with a message back to the sender to go convince their recipient to move to a legitimate and open email provider because their current one is stupidly blocking and spying their mail. Give them a nice timeout after which the big three get sunk. No one who runs their own dspam style spamassassin av whitelist responder has any real problem at all... because they are in control of the receiving parameters, not some stupid megacorp third party whim in their spool. More mail providers need to be offering these options as end user spool configurables, aggregating for selection at per provider or per account levels. Distributed overlay messaging's end to end and encrypted delivery will take over for anyone serious about communicating, including corporations. Unfortunately faceboogle sheeple will continue as they are.
It looks like the DNS changeover worked ok. Please let me know of any anomalies... The idea below of blocking the big ISPs is an interesting one. Back in the olden days, the Cypherpunks list was actually a meta list, with several different email servers that each had their own subscribers and handled message delivery for those subscribers. There could again be such a constellation of list servers, and some of those could opt to reject communications from some providers. - Greg On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 02:52:18AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
quarantined or rejected by many large email providers.
Those anti-spam measures are a good topic for discussion. They have some merit in identifying the validity of the servers that messages come from.
But they don't help with validating the sender, or non-repudiation, or other features that have existed at least as long as PGP.
Begging the State to validate you destroys all valuable anonprivacy that humanity needs, do not do that, instead retain validation of yourself soley as you deem useful to you.
It's not easy to run your own mail transport agent these days. Here is a little article from some other victims of the behemoth ISPs:
The better solution is to simply fight back... blacklist google, yahoo, microsoft, with a message back to the sender to go convince their recipient to move to a legitimate and open email provider because their current one is stupidly blocking and spying their mail. Give them a nice timeout after which the big three get sunk.
No one who runs their own dspam style spamassassin av whitelist responder has any real problem at all... because they are in control of the receiving parameters, not some stupid megacorp third party whim in their spool.
More mail providers need to be offering these options as end user spool configurables, aggregating for selection at per provider or per account levels.
Distributed overlay messaging's end to end and encrypted delivery will take over for anyone serious about communicating, including corporations.
Unfortunately faceboogle sheeple will continue as they are.
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