lots of Human scum, snake oil peddlers etc in my industry, back at Sunsoft in 1994 I used to have to work with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gil_Shwed as he was writing the initial versions of Firewall-1(was being done on Solaris 2.4 at the time). He had a desk in Bldg 5 at Sunsoft also Gil as Wikipedia states(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gil_Shwed) and as Bamford writes was a member of the Mossad linked Unit 8200. He was extremely eager to get FW-1(which Sun had NO source to at that time) into the hands of Sun Customers.. LOTS of SUN customers. And given what I was doing at the time for the 5 Sun Companies, I was a Sun Industrial Relations 'skunk' as in skunkworks there was a bit of pressure for me to use Fw-1 at my offsite lab(s) and my home lab(NOT), I already had alternatives. Fortunately as I was also working with SunLabs we had internally developed alternatives which we did control all sources for ie Sunscreen-1, unfortunately there was an insistance we use BSAFE(which I ALWAYS had a LOT of resistance to) for the SKIP crypto tunnels, as we are coming to find out.. there were evil reasons for this. Skip had some internal defenses against such skulduggery such as rapidly switching out keys.. use of DH.. and both Ashar Aziz and Whit Diffie had their hand in the design. But if there were flaws in the random number gen that were not known to us then this puts a whole different light on things like none of the defenses mean anything when keys were predictable. and I used to think John Young had finally skipped over the edge John My apologies.. Fucking SNAKE OIL salesmen gwen ps its becoming VERY obvious to me that RSA Inc. and Jim Bidzos were filthy from the start. I thought an AG-Crypto was being run on us but I was told I was being overly paranoid and to take off my tin foil hat(NOT). -- Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.’