Two recent examples 1) Ross Ulbricht tried to hire Hitmen to kill people who upset him and his business all the while posing, preening and posturing online as a ' peaceful agorist ' The Hitmen he hired were also authorized to kill innocent civilian witnesses - flatmates, etc 2) Associate of Jeff Berwick - another alleged peace-loving agorist  - was just accused of murdering an anarchist who upset Berwick and his business dealings.  How many more ' peace-loving Agorists ' out there are going to turn Charlie Manson? Maybe we should waterboard Gramps about this.