On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 4:55 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 22:56:55 +0000 zeynepaydogan wrote:

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I want to talk about privacy, Facebook data and the metaverse. I wonder what you all think about the Metaverse project.

More joo-US-nazi garbage coming from a piece of non human joo shit like jakobo fukerberg?

Did you find any interesting bit of information about it? Apart from NSA spam I mean.

Hi punk, just wondering and always wanted to know what you personally have against Jews? And did you know that people may receive Divine Retribution if they publicity speak (in prayers for example) bad about the good people of Israel? I don't mean Zuckerberg. I already saw three videos about that. :-) Regards Stefan

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 6:16 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 17:29:15 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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just wondering and always wanted to know what you personally have against Jews?

I explained what's wrong with joos in various messages I sent to jew-fascist Karl. But in a nutshell, as a liberal anarchist, I regard a theocratic, supremacist, racist criminal gang as a serious threat to freedom. Plus, so called jew-kkkristianity is closely tied to 'western capitalism'(aka fascism). You can read good old Max Weber in his original language discussing that topic =) "Die protestantische Ethik und der Geist des Kapitalismus".

Ah ok.. For me jews have never been a threat in any form, and I am also a big fan of Israel Globally seen (for the western world) I see a big threat in creeping Islamization and especially in Germany then the combination of woke green party folks and left wingers. But this is another story.

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And did you know that people may receive Divine Retribution if they publicity speak (in prayers for example) bad about the good people of Israel?

Wow. That's pretty serious.

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I don't mean Zuckerberg.

he's not a joo?

Well he is, but I do not like him and not because of his religion.

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I already saw three videos about that. :-)

jewtube videos? =)

No, from Israeli sources. :-) Regards Stefan

Sorry for not quoting directly your reply. About me. I am conservative, patriotic, and democratic, which may sound really stupid to you. If I lived in the United States and would there be eligible for a vote I would 100 percent vote for President Trump. Regarding Mark Zuckerberg, as understood facebook was not his own invention and he 'used' things from his university friends. When I saw AOC tore him apart in a Congressional hearing he looked very little to me as a CEO and when reading (sorry no URL) that 'fact' checkers there received massive funding from a guy in the pharma industry I was also not 'amused'. Not to mention that he as a US citizen, running a US based company has allowed that IIRC 500 regular 'fact' checkers from Berlin Germany can censor post from German facebook users. Compare that for example with a modern US-based and *free* speech platform like gab.com, where its CEO has balls and does *not* comply to Germany's request via lawers and heavy fines. Regarding Muslims. I do not have anything against *peaceful* Muslims which accept the culture and integrate well into their host countries. But I do of course have something against Islamists and Islamic Terror Organizations. Regarding green party. If you understand German language I will post in a next reply of you a video from a very charismatic and well educated person, who came from Lebanon in the 70's and lives and works in Germany. We have many charismatic and intelligent people in Germany who are now ex-muslims. What could be their reason? And another thing. If you or your friends follow 'social' media sites, the interesting thing is, people who are green-party and left wing mostly use pseudonyms when verbally 'attacking' conservative people and never have good arguments, while right-wingers or conservatives mostly can bring facts and do not act emotionally. Last but not least, could you imagine, in case you could become a head of state in a country of your choosing, how would you and your people run an economy successfully? Regards Stefan On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:14 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 18:42:13 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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just wondering and always wanted to know what you personally have against Jews?

I explained what's wrong with joos in various messages I sent to jew-fascist Karl. But in a nutshell, as a liberal anarchist, I regard a theocratic, supremacist, racist criminal gang as a serious threat to freedom. Plus, so called jew-kkkristianity is closely tied to 'western capitalism'(aka fascism). You can read good old Max Weber in his original language discussing that topic =) "Die protestantische Ethik und der Geist des Kapitalismus".

Ah ok..

For me jews have never been a threat in any form, and I am also a big fan of Israel

Really. So you are yet another enemy of humanity. Well, most of what you've been saying shows you're seriously fucked up anyway so endorsing a state that is commiting crimes against humanity is hardly surprising coming from you.

Do you happen to have a name for your political philosophy? What are you? A 'Jew Democract'? A 'Conservative'? Or what.

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Globally seen (for the western world) I see a big threat in creeping Islamization

sure sure.

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and especially in Germany then the combination of woke green party folks and left wingers.

oh yes yes. There are no jew US nazis in germany. The only problem there is 'islam' and the 'greens'. Furthermore, germany isn't still occupied by jew-US-nazis, ramstein doesn't exist, and you german garbage aren't accomplices of the crimes against humanity that jew-US nazis commit in the middle east...and the rest of the world.

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But this is another story.

nah, it's the very same story. Did you vote for trump?

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he's not a joo?

Well he is, but I do not like him and not because of his religion.

you don't think fukerberg is enough of a right wing criminal for your taste? Maybe he isn't banning enough muslamic fukerbook users?

should fukerberg help the isreali nazis exterminate the palestinians faster? What is nazi jew fukerberg doing wrong from your enlightened point of view?

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I already saw three videos about that. :-)

jewtube videos? =)

No, from Israeli sources. :-)

ha ha ha

Punk, sorry for not exactly quoting again. We could probably both discuss all these things until we get blue in the face and what have we both reached, here on this Mailing List, in the end? I am already 59 years old, have seen some different places in the world, have done this and that, been always flexible, and also like to learn from people much younger than me, regardless of where they come from, but if you have seen how extreme Islamists in the western world think or what young 'refugees' from Muslims countries do[1] and that such people, in general, have support from other woke people you would get an idea. Zeynep has nothing gained from our Off-Topic discussion, which is IMHO said. [1] One of many examples: Not so long ago, four Afghan refugees gang-raped a 13 years old girl in Austria and then killed her. When this became public in an Austrian newspaper local girlies stormed the newspaper house and made trouble that the newspaper reported that these people were Afghans. Maybe you can undertsand why I think about many topics different from you. Regards and Good Night Stefan On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 9:39 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 19:58:42 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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Sorry for not quoting directly your reply.

About me. I am conservative, patriotic, and democratic, which may sound really stupid to you. If I lived in the United States and would there be eligible for a vote I would 100 percent vote for President Trump.

Yeah ok. You know that trump wants to murder assange, right? What's your take on that?

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Regarding Mark Zuckerberg, as understood facebook was not his own invention

indeed, 'facebook' isn't an invention at all. It's a complete ripoff of things like "myspace" which were not 'original inventions' either.

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and he 'used' things from his university friends. When I saw AOC tore him apart in a Congressional hearing he looked very little to me as a CEO and when reading (sorry no URL) that 'fact' checkers there received massive funding from a guy in the pharma industry I was also not 'amused'. Not to mention that he as a US citizen, running a US based company has allowed that IIRC 500 regular 'fact' checkers from Berlin Germany can censor post from German facebook users.

well yes, germany is a province of the jew-US nazi empire, and so speech IN germany is controlled by US nazi jews. As an 'isreal' admirer you should thank the joo g'd for ruling you =) .

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Compare that for example with a modern US-based and *free* speech platform like gab.com, where its CEO has balls and does *not* comply to Germany's request via lawers and heavy fines.

gab.com is just another NSA-CIA shop, especially famous for their shitty 'security'...

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/anonymous-leaks-gigab...

also, you can't open an account there unless you have a fucktardphone, and soon they will require a pentagon brain implant (see my other post).

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Regarding Muslims. I do not have anything against *peaceful* Muslims which accept the culture and integrate well into their host countries.

why should they? The pieces of nazi jew-kkkristian shit never do that. On the contrary, the pieces of western, jew-kkkristian nazi shit are destroying every culture on the planet except their own jew non-culture. Look up : dutch empire, portuguese empire, french empire, british empire, US, isreal, etc. Funnily enough, germans came rather late to the imperial game and only had a few 'colonies' in africa.

Anyway, I don't like islam either, it's theocractic garbage EXACTLY like jooism. But then again, I have a consistent political position...

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But I do of course have something against Islamists and Islamic Terror Organizations.

but you are a supporter of joo terrorism and their crimes against humanity?

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Regarding green party. If you understand German language I will post in a next reply of you a video from a very charismatic and well educated person, who came from Lebanon in the 70's and lives and works in Germany. We have many charismatic and intelligent people in Germany who are now ex-muslims. What could be their reason?

they are corrupt assholes who only care about money and were bought out. That's their reason. I'm familiar with assholes from the 'third world' who move to the 'first world' because they only care about getting a bit more money to buy garbage they don't need.

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And another thing. If you or your friends follow 'social' media sites, the interesting thing is, people who are green-party and left wing mostly use pseudonyms when verbally 'attacking' conservative people and never have good arguments, while right-wingers or conservatives mostly can bring facts and do not act emotionally.

lawl - so you think 'conservatives' are the 'good guys'? And do you think that's aligned with cypherpunk views somehow? How do 'conservatives' i.e. fascists, and alleged anti state activists(cypherpunks) get along?

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Last but not least, could you imagine, in case you could become a head of state in a country of your choosing, how would you and your people run an economy successfully?

Did I mention that I'm a liberal anarchist? I wouldn't run the economy or anything else.

However, given the chance, I would execute all billionaires, for starters.

Punk, the usual sorry for not quoting ... Do you know what the second-largest religion in Israel is and how many Muslims enjoy living in Israel? Maybe they can give their brothers and sisters in Palestine some tips and tricks to build up a better economy so that they do not need to attack Israel regularly with rockets, Arsene balloons, or send Terrorists there. Building up a better economy for Palestine could be financed by Iran or the Islamic Brotherhood in Qatar, for example, if other Arab neighbors are not interested. If you follow news you may have seen that recently Israel and Russia, for example, had talks. Regarding Crypto Anarchism, what do you or other members from this ML bring to the table code-wise or whatever so that others can enjoy crypto-anarchism too and what advantage has it in general for a user, when using the Internet? Regards Stefan On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 3:06 AM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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but if you have seen how extreme Islamists in the western world think or what young 'refugees' from Muslims countries do[1] and that such people, in general, have support from other woke people you would get an idea.

Problem is, even if I take into account the more fanatical branches of islam, they are in essence no different than the jew-kristian criminals, who are A LOT closer to home, and who pretend to be the 'good guys' while usually being worse than the muslims.

So, really, trying the muslim scare on me will only backfire.

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Zeynep has nothing gained from our Off-Topic discussion, which is IMHO said.

Well, my first comment about the nature of the criminals behind that metaverse thing was relevant I think. Apart from that, what's to be said about facebook or further cancers derived from it? Maybe Zeynep should have provided some background and then asked a less general question?

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[1] One of many examples: Not so long ago, four Afghan refugees gang-raped a 13 years old girl in Austria and then killed her.

Yeah well. That's a tragedy but how is that any different from what western nazis have been doing for ages and are doing right now?

I mean, you've candidly stated that you are "a big fan of Israel" which means you support crimes against humanity in palestine, so what kind of consistent moral objection do you have to this particular crime?

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Maybe you can undertsand why I think about many topics different from you.

I'm well aware of what conservatism is. And it's not something to be understood since it's mostly an irrational pseudo philosophy based on tradition, revealed religion(fraud), authoritarianism and the like. Coincidentally, islam is also an authoritarian, conservative pseudo philosophy =)

I see you are at least critical of 'smartphones', but I don't see how your other views mesh with crypto anarchy.

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Regards and Good Night Stefan

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 7:03 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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Regarding Crypto Anarchism, what do you or other members from this ML bring to the table code-wise or whatever

Do not change the subject Stefan. The question is, what does a thoroughly conservative jew-fascist like you, who is an apologist for crimes against humanity, do in an allegedly 'libertarian' 'anarchist' mailing list.

This was an honest question, Punk. This ML is not a closed club and I am always interested in learning things, when it comes to crypto etc. Regards Stefan

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:10 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 19:34:15 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 7:03 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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Regarding Crypto Anarchism, what do you or other members from this ML bring to the table code-wise or whatever

Do not change the subject Stefan. The question is, what does a thoroughly conservative jew-fascist like you, who is an apologist for crimes against humanity, do in an allegedly 'libertarian' 'anarchist' mailing list.

This was an honest question, Punk.

That doesn't look like a honest question at all. You keep ignoring my question and instead ask irrelevant bullshit.

And here's yet another 'problem' with your position. If you were actually interested in privacy you wouldn't be a support of non human garbage like trump and the fucking jews.

You are aware that for example a democrat like back than Senator Biden was the reason Mr. Zimmermann wrote PGP or that a democrat like Bill Clinton liked the idea of Clipper chip or that recently democrat AOC made proposals about surveilance. And I guess that you know that real Cypherpunks have and had dam fine jews in their rows.

So, why would you bother asking for 'code' when you're quite comfortable being the lapdog of the worst anti-privacy turds on the planet?

If you would know more about me, then you would know that I run privacy services on the Internet on my own cost.

Like I said, you had your fun. Keep whining about 'evil muslamic rapists', you're in the same category as 'grarpamp' and professor turd now.

I can live with that.

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This ML is not a closed club and I am always interested in learning things, when it comes to crypto etc.

yeah, get a book about crypto and read it.

No need for it. I would instead suggest that you make yourself a little bit more comfortable with certain things around crypto, privacy and anonymity. Regards Stefan

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 7:03 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 18:41:47 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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Do you know what the second-largest religion in Israel is and how many Muslims enjoy living in Israel? Maybe they can give their brothers and sisters in Palestine some tips and tricks

Ok Stefan. You had your fun.

Punk, I do not make fun of people and serious issues the world has. You always make it easy to bend things into shape and can't explain why peace-loving Muslims get along fine with other nations and their cultures and a few (but growing in number) always make trouble and don't realize that this is not a solution. I end here with this discussion about this special topic. Regards Stefan

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:55 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:13:46 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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You always make it easy to bend things into shape and can't explain why peace-loving Muslims get along fine with other nations and their cultures and a few (but growing in number) always make trouble

OK, now you're saying that "a few muslims make trouble". So what has that got to do with anything. A few people, muslims or whatever make trouble. It's a completely irrelevant fact.

Punk, I do not know in what bubble you live. The 'few' are in leading positions and are able due to their cleverness and financial background to influence the masses (like the refugees).

On the other hand, I just heard that the german government doesn't allow 'unvaxxed' human beings to use public transportation. What's your take on that? Let's talk about a fuckingly serious political problem caused by your nazi government, not what 3 'refugees' did.

Yes that is correct and it is getting worse I assume. For me it looks like they try out more and more things because they can not figure out how to get rid of a (global) pandemic. Before we had vaccinations, when the pandemic started, we only had a lockdown. Regards Stefan

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 9:31 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 21:06:59 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:55 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:13:46 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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You always make it easy to bend things into shape and can't explain why peace-loving Muslims get along fine with other nations and their cultures and a few (but growing in number) always make trouble

OK, now you're saying that "a few muslims make trouble". So what has that got to do with anything. A few people, muslims or whatever make trouble. It's a completely irrelevant fact.

Punk, I do not know in what bubble you live.

Right back at you. Except I know your bubble pretty well =)

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The 'few' are in leading positions and are able due to their cleverness and financial background to influence the masses (like the refugees).

Ok, so you were not talking about a few refugees in germany. Your bad. We were talking about refugees but then you changed the topic, in your head, without letting me know.

So now you're whining about 'a few' islamic countries that don't toe the pentagon party line? Or what.

For me it is perfectly fine, but then they should not *force* their interpretation of the Qu'ran been implemented silently in western cultures and be peaceful to their neighbors. And secondly, those of them should show love to their sisters and brothers (the refugees) and take them and not us. Take for example Syria, 2015 we had in Germany a refugee crisis. Try to get hold of video footage of Syria (Damaskus or nice beach resorts) and maybe questions would come up why these people are stiil here. Or ask Zeynep what she thinks about Syrian refugees (the banana video from Syrian 'refugees' in Turkey).

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On the other hand, I just heard that the german government doesn't allow 'unvaxxed' human beings to use public transportation. What's your take on that? Let's talk about a fuckingly serious political problem caused by your nazi government, not what 3 'refugees' did.

Yes that is correct and it is getting worse I assume.

For me it looks like they try out more and more things because they can not figure out how to get rid of a (global) pandemic.

There's no global pandemic Stefan. There's a completely out of control global dictatorship.

That is most likely the reason why in so many western countries' people protest on the streets.

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Before we had vaccinations, when the pandemic started, we only had a lockdown.

and?

Well no big fuss then, nobody complained and everything was 'ok'. Regards Stefan

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 10:33 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 21:53:08 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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Before we had vaccinations, when the pandemic started, we only had a lockdown.

and?

Well no big fuss then, nobody complained and everything was 'ok'.

Not sure what you're getting at. Are you agreeing on what kind of stupid joke all this is? Yes, at the beginning of the plandemic there were no 'vaccines' and nothing happened. Then after useless lockdowns(mass incarceration) and poisonous vaccines, the medical nazis keep getting more hysterical, violating more rights, ramping up the propaganda, etc. A fuckingly serious political disaster.

People raised in western countries see the first time in their life a case and how this is handled which are for many people not in line with what their understanding of democracy is. How does, for example, competitor Russia and China handle this? Sorry for not giving you a better reply, but hopefully It may give you some ideas to think about. Regards Stefan

On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 16:55:07 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

And do illegal aliens have to have a negative PCR test when crossing borders?

test of what?

People raised in western countries see the first time in their life a case and how this is handled

a case of what? Of global fascist madness? But people who are 90 years old in europe now were 10 years old when world war 2 started. So they saw worse than this. Do you know what those world wars were? What did your JOO-US government teach you about them?

which are for many people not in line with what their understanding of democracy is.

right, fascism isn't in line with the lies that fake western 'democrats' tell to themselves about their 'democratic' societies. Now the totalitarian nature of their 'democratic' cesspools is even easier to see.

How does, for example, competitor Russia and China handle this?

handle what? Looks like you believe the fascist flu farce is a real 'disease'? It's funny because a couple of days ago you asked if I had "restricted arpanet access", apparently suggesting that I was 'misinformed'. If you're asking how are china and russia implementing their brands of medical fascism, I don't have direct information. What do you think they are doing? What does the deutsche welle tell you? Bloomberg? The CIA? What's your source of 'information'? =)

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On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 5:23 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 16:55:07 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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And do illegal aliens have to have a negative PCR test when crossing borders?

test of what?

Simply said if the test says if one has COVID-19

OK, I had enough of your evil idiocy Stefan.

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How does, for example, competitor Russia and China handle this?

If you're asking how are china and russia implementing their brands of medical fascism, I don't have direct information. What do you think they are doing? What does the deutsche welle tell you? Bloomberg? The CIA? What's your source of 'information'? =)

You see, me neither, and I am not in Russia or China to have direct information of how this is handled there.

So what's your point?

Regards Stefan

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The point with my question is, if you have two systems, like western countries and Russia and China.

Which system would be the first to reach their goal in this global pandemic to return back to normal operations and assuming it would take very long who stays calm?

are you drunk?

Regards Stefan

I agree with Stefan on this. The Middle East is very uneducated about sexuality. i don't discriminate against people. i've volunteered here in the Amnesty before. An incident similar to the incident that Stefan was talking about happened in Turkey. An Afghan refugee raped and injured a 16-year-old girl here. She died 2 days ago. Punk may sound strange to you, but when these refugees first came to Turkey, they started taking pictures of the girls on the street Because maybe for the first time in their life, they saw a woman wearing a mini-skirt. Imagine how uneducated they are.… I don't judge people by their national identity or religion Açık Per, Kas 25, 2021 01:44, Stefan Claas yazdı:

Punk, sorry for not exactly quoting again.

We could probably both discuss all these things until we get blue in the face and what have we both reached, here on this Mailing List, in the end?

I am already 59 years old, have seen some different places in the world, have done this and that, been always flexible, and also like to learn from people much younger than me, regardless of where they come from, but if you have seen how extreme Islamists in the western world think or what young 'refugees' from Muslims countries do[1] and that such people, in general, have support from other woke people you would get an idea.

Zeynep has nothing gained from our Off-Topic discussion, which is IMHO said.

[1] One of many examples: Not so long ago, four Afghan refugees gang-raped a 13 years old girl in Austria and then killed her. When this became public in an Austrian newspaper local girlies stormed the newspaper house and made trouble that the newspaper reported that these people were Afghans.

Maybe you can undertsand why I think about many topics different from you.

Regards and Good Night Stefan

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 9:39 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 19:58:42 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

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Sorry for not quoting directly your reply.

About me. I am conservative, patriotic, and democratic, which may sound really stupid to you. If I lived in the United States and would there be eligible for a vote I would 100 percent vote for President Trump.

Yeah ok. You know that trump wants to murder assange, right? What's your take on that?

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Regarding Mark Zuckerberg, as understood facebook was not his own invention

indeed, 'facebook' isn't an invention at all. It's a complete ripoff of things like "myspace" which were not 'original inventions' either.

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and he 'used' things from his university friends. When I saw AOC tore him apart in a Congressional hearing he looked very little to me as a CEO and when reading (sorry no URL) that 'fact' checkers there received massive funding from a guy in the pharma industry I was also not 'amused'. Not to mention that he as a US citizen, running a US based company has allowed that IIRC 500 regular 'fact' checkers from Berlin Germany can censor post from German facebook users.

well yes, germany is a province of the jew-US nazi empire, and so speech IN germany is controlled by US nazi jews. As an 'isreal' admirer you should thank the joo g'd for ruling you =) .

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Compare that for example with a modern US-based and *free* speech platform like gab.com, where its CEO has balls and does *not* comply to Germany's request via lawers and heavy fines.

gab.com is just another NSA-CIA shop, especially famous for their shitty 'security'...

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/anonymous-leaks-gigab...

also, you can't open an account there unless you have a fucktardphone, and soon they will require a pentagon brain implant (see my other post).

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Regarding Muslims. I do not have anything against *peaceful* Muslims which accept the culture and integrate well into their host countries.

why should they? The pieces of nazi jew-kkkristian shit never do that. On the contrary, the pieces of western, jew-kkkristian nazi shit are destroying every culture on the planet except their own jew non-culture. Look up : dutch empire, portuguese empire, french empire, british empire, US, isreal, etc. Funnily enough, germans came rather late to the imperial game and only had a few 'colonies' in africa.

Anyway, I don't like islam either, it's theocractic garbage EXACTLY like jooism. But then again, I have a consistent political position...

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But I do of course have something against Islamists and Islamic Terror Organizations.

but you are a supporter of joo terrorism and their crimes against humanity?

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Regarding green party. If you understand German language I will post in a next reply of you a video from a very charismatic and well educated person, who came from Lebanon in the 70's and lives and works in Germany. We have many charismatic and intelligent people in Germany who are now ex-muslims. What could be their reason?

they are corrupt assholes who only care about money and were bought out. That's their reason. I'm familiar with assholes from the 'third world' who move to the 'first world' because they only care about getting a bit more money to buy garbage they don't need.

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And another thing. If you or your friends follow 'social' media sites, the interesting thing is, people who are green-party and left wing mostly use pseudonyms when verbally 'attacking' conservative people and never have good arguments, while right-wingers or conservatives mostly can bring facts and do not act emotionally.

lawl - so you think 'conservatives' are the 'good guys'? And do you think that's aligned with cypherpunk views somehow? How do 'conservatives' i.e. fascists, and alleged anti state activists(cypherpunks) get along?

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Last but not least, could you imagine, in case you could become a head of state in a country of your choosing, how would you and your people run an economy successfully?

Did I mention that I'm a liberal anarchist? I wouldn't run the economy or anything else.

However, given the chance, I would execute all billionaires, for starters.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 6:10 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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An incident similar to the incident that Stefan was talking about happened in Turkey. An Afghan refugee raped and injured a 16-year-old girl here. She died 2 days ago.

Same reply I gave to Stefan. That's one incident. Judging 'refugees' for what one guy did isn't rational.

There are more rape incidents or what is also quite popular are knife attacks from African refugees, with Islamic background. Interestingly these 'refugees' are almost young males, from Afghanistan, Syria, or Africa. If I had to flee my country I would first send my wife and the kids, but I guess this is too old school. Regards Stefan

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Interestingly these 'refugees' are almost young males, from Afghanistan, Syria, or Africa. If I had to flee my country I would first send my wife and the kids, but I guess this is too old school.

Yeah, especially men and I think it's a political background. Erdogan is doing this in particular. Because the Turkish people here don't want him. The public is now on the streets to resign. Many men came from Syria and Afghanistan in particular. Erdogan's goal is to disrupt the society structure here. He can't do it with the Turkish people. These young refugees here support him . Erdogan is trying to use it against Europe, Because it gave him a great advantage that these uneducated men came here. he's going to get them to vote here by giving id to most of them, but he's not going to win the election. So he will use these barbarians against the people living in Turkey. He also threatens the borders of Europe. To get money from Europe. Why men and not women? You ever think about that, Punk? Also, an Afghan female announcer, who has been insured in Turkey, has been on a private plane to border Turkey with Afghanistan. Here are the Afghan men who are harassing women taking pictures of them on the street. The link below belongs to the incident I mentioned. Afghan refugee followed and raped 16-year-old girl. This girl died because of Erdoğan's dirty policy. Afghan women are in trouble. But Afghan men are all over the world. Women in other countries live in fear because of these men It's on camera footage, he's following her. She was in a coma for 4 months https://www.superhaber.tv/4-ay-dayanabildi-tecavuz-girisiminde-yaralanan-ays... I'm just asking, why are these barbarians asylum seekers, not women?

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:41:31 +0100 Stefan Claas wrote:

You know what, Punk would be surprised that also our Turkish people, living in Germany

you mean turkish refugees who are against other refugees like them? Wow. So turkish refugees behave like german nazis? Double wow.

are no longer happy about these refugees and many of them voted right-wing, same goes for other nationalities living in Germany.

Regards Stefan

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 19:14:26 +0000 zeynepaydogan wrote:

Why men and not women? You ever think about that, Punk?

Sorry Zeynep, you're just parroting propaganda.

I'm just asking, why are these barbarians asylum seekers, not women?

By the way Zeynep, it doesn't look as if Turkey is the most civilized country on the planet. https://www.armenian-genocide.org/turkey.html

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:49:21 +0000 zeynepaydogan wrote:

What I'm trying to explain is that these young refugees are under the regime of the dictator, just like in their own country.

Yes, that's possible. It would be a typical government operation. Cause some chaos, and then restore order. That's how the mafia, and government, which are the same thing, work. You have to pay the mafia protection money, so that the mafia doesn't attack you. But if you know that the 'refugees' are working as willing or even unwilling agents of the government, then don't play their game, and don't fuel the 'narrative' of evil refugees.

I accept genocide, but right-wing and Erdogan don't. This place is multinational. I could be Armenian or Latino. But I didn't question it because I don't care.

I don't mean to pick on turkey anyway.

[spam] note to self: i ignored most of the topically relevant spam in this thread

Anarchism supports all people. Governance (coercion) is the problem, not being part of one group, or another. Any anarchist knows this.

It's been slow, metaverse happening. We got the world wide web instead.

Now we have social networks. The movie The Matrix tacitly hid that whoever designs a fake reality controls its laws and hence its people's choices, which became more apparent to the public with social networks. Changes if spies/hackers/ais are directing things instead of the virtual reality manufacturer. Regardless, having a safe metaverse is analogous to have a safe line of brain implants, a safe monopolistic social network, a safe monopolistic news agency, a safe GPU provider etc. We need things to be run by public, free, community code, and most important we turn into borg slaves if we rely on a system, cultural component, or technology that is monopolistic, anywhere in the chain. It's happening right now with the IP stack. People look to radio, snail mail, personal visits, but really everyone's addicted to the internet. A big wifi antenna labelled "IP routing infrastructure" sticking out of everybody's eyeball. As security reduces, our tools prepare to instill our next global dictator, because in the span of a decade or two we all forgot how to use a pencil. Nobody paid attention when some raised warnings, because nobody knew all the cards that might be played. If there's a vulnerability, somebody can use it to prevent the closing of it. Others will be planning for that. So, like everyone else will common-sensically parrot, make sure to hack and clone your metaverse. Run it on a toaster you built yourself, or a 3d-printed intelligent rock. Reverse engineer the marketing protocols and get a collection of vr-addicted human drones to build a real world set of open hardware community spaceships. Then we can all see the real galaxy of aliens, for free. BTW. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-59090067

Regards Stefan