On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 05:48:02AM +0000, jim bell wrote:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/28/assange-wikileaks-prosecu... Philip Agee.

Entirely apropos and an interesting story to boot. Just as the Jews have their spyware and flashmob "counter anti-semitic" apps: The software, called the Anti-Semitism Cyber Monitoring System, or ACMS, is "the most advanced development in the world for monitoring anti-Semitism in real time," the ministry said... https://www.timesofisrael.com/diaspora-ministry-unveils-system-for-tracking-... https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-running-campaign-... https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israeli-spyware-was-used-to-tra... https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-spyware-used-against-saudi-arabian-dis... https://www.mintpressnews.com/saudi-arabia-secretly-purchased-250m-spy-packa... in this day and age a CIA-agent (and NSA, FBI etc) identification app would be relatively easy to create - turbo charging what Agee did in the '70s. For example one obvious group are the legacy stream media plants, Luke Harding and or Dan Collyns (is that a real name, Collyns?) for two face planting manipulator examples to start with: The Guardian Faceplants As Manafort's Passport Stamps Don't Match "Fabricated" Assange Story https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-29/guardian-faceplants-manaforts-pass... …WikiLeaks immediately fired back at The Guardian - betting the paper "a million dollars and its editor's head that Manafort never met Assange." This is going to be one of the most infamous news disasters since Stern published the "Hitler Diaries". — WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) November 27, 2018 It is evident that those who proclaim "Russia hacked the USA's 2016 elections" are compromised, idiots, (CIA or Hitlery) agents, or some combination. A problem with human "annotations" if you like is the problem of "the tyranny of the mob" which it times of stress descends into witch hunting lynch mobs - so empower that at your peril, yet on the other hand, evil only thrives in secrecy and the Satanists seem to corral an extraordinary large number of humans into the "eff the optics of the Butcher of Benghazi and her oral lynching of a 12 year old (at the time) rapee, I'm With Her" - this level of mass programming is truly impressive, shocking, etc. - evidently many folk simply don't think, they are CNNPCs, MSNPCs, as in literally. Exposure, transparency, truth and facts must be the fundament of any sane "community or tribal grouping" (politics), and so from this foundation, turbocharging publishing of empire-embarrassing facts as Agee and Assange have done, and the trasparency that a "CIA and other agent crowd sourced identification" app would bring to the table, despite any possible, or even probable, problems, are necessary and important, with the benefits far outweighing those potential problems. Besides, the hypocrisy of Western "democracy" ought be utterly exposed and crushed into the dark halls of history - as humans at least trying to think about things (and to whatever limited the degree we actually achieve something resembling "thought"), we owe it to ourselves and future "try to think"ers to clean out the rot. Good luck,

On 11/29/18 12:48 AM, jim bell wrote:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/28/assange-wikileaks-prosecu...

Philip Agee.

Good one. :o) I do approve of Phil Agee - I literally shook his hand and thanked him for his service - but he was not a Nice Man. What he saw the U.S. doing in Latin America - sponsoring and directing State terror campaigns against opponents of U.S. backed totalitarian governments - pushed Agee over to the Commie side. He believed that the USSR and its allies presented the only hope for relief from the U.S. reign of terror in various countries south of the U.S. border. Apparently it was the systematic use of torture and murder to make examples of political activists that really got to him. Where widespread concerns about setting precedents negating First Amendment press protections kept Agee from being prosecuted, Assange already has "secret" U.S. criminal charges. The charges against Assange probably assert that he "conspired" with Russian Federation intelligence agencies to harm the U.S. National Interest. This tells us a lot about the evolution of U.S. public policy in the years between: Agee personally collected and published very damaging classified information; Assange has only published materials provided by others. Agee committed criminal offenses under U.S. law; Assange is an Australian under no legal obligation to obey any U.S. chain of command's orders. By the late 1980s Agee was free to travel and speak in the United States. If Assange sets foot outside the Ecuadorian embassy, a joint US/British team already in place will snatch him and ship him to the United States for a show trial. What defensive strategies will Assange use going forward? That's hard to guess. But I would suggest that anyone who approves of Wikileaks' work, and happens to have access to damaging information related to the individuals who would be personally involved in prosecuting Assange, can contribute by collecting as much of that information as possible and sending it along to Wikileaks.