Julian Assange to be pardoned by Trump?
Rumor has it Trump is planning on pardoning Julian Assange, founder of whistleblower website Wikileaks.
On 01/05/2018 11:59 PM, CANNON wrote:
Rumor has it Trump is planning on pardoning Julian Assange, founder of whistleblower website Wikileaks.
If I'm not mistaken, the above is a meaningless mouth noise. Assange has not been charged, much less convicted, of any offense under U.S. jurisdiction. But the above is exactly what a DNC propaganda operative would say. Not only is it a meaningless mouth noise, it promotes a "null set" world view favorable to the Clinton & Co. Family Business. :o)
On 1/6/2018 3:39 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the above is a meaningless mouth noise. Assange has not been charged, much less convicted, of any offense under U.S. jurisdiction.
Trump does not need to wait for charges to issue a pardon. He can, and should, issue a pardon for any crimes that might have been committed by Julian Assange, and also a pardon for anyone whose crimes that Assange might reveal in congressional testimony while under oath. Then Congress can ask Julian Assange: "Where did the dirt on Clinton come from? If not the Russians?"
On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 12:39:26AM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 01/05/2018 11:59 PM, CANNON wrote:
Rumor has it Trump is planning on pardoning Julian Assange, founder of whistleblower website Wikileaks.
If I'm not mistaken, the above is a meaningless mouth noise. Assange has not been charged, much less convicted, of any offense under U.S. jurisdiction.
You may be right that he has not been charged, but when an officially undisclosed yet ultimately leaked Grand Jury https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/may/11/us-opens-wikileaks-grand-jury-... The US government has opened a grand jury hearing into the passing of hundreds of thousands of state secrets to WikiLeaks – the start of the process of deciding whether to prosecute the website and its founder, Julian Assange, for espionage. began, behind closed doors, how can you be so sure he was never charged? (Again, you may be correct, but your certainty appears on the face of it to be unsupported.)
But the above is exactly what a DNC propaganda operative would say. Not only is it a meaningless mouth noise, it promotes a "null set" world view favorable to the Clinton & Co. Family Business.
I don't grok your logic. It sounds probably interesting though...
Not obvious Assange wants to give up police protection, free digs, fancy pulpit, pussy galore. Poitras' "Risk" is a grotesque portrait, no wonder Assange hates its statue toppling. Ladies gagaing him, not a good time to celebrate that. At 11:59 PM 1/5/2018, you wrote:
Rumor has it Trump is planning on pardoning Julian Assange, founder of whistleblower website Wikileaks.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 01/06/2018 05:56 AM, John Young wrote:
Not obvious Assange wants to give up police protection, free digs, fancy pulpit, pussy galore.
Poitras' "Risk" is a grotesque portrait, no wonder Assange hates its statue toppling.
Ladies gagaing him, not a good time to celebrate that.
At 11:59 PM 1/5/2018, you wrote:
Rumor has it Trump is planning on pardoning Julian Assange, founder of whistleblower website Wikileaks.
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On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 04:59:02AM +0000, CANNON wrote:
Rumor has it Trump is planning on pardoning Julian Assange, founder of whistleblower website Wikileaks.
Snowden: "Mr. President, if you grant only one act of clemency during your time in office, please: free Julian Assange. You alone can save his life." Oliver Stone: Here's Why Trump Should Pardon Snowden, Assange https://www.zerohedge.com/political/oliver-stone-heres-why-trump-should-pard... Filmmaker Oliver Stone has joined the growing chorus of activists calling for President Trump to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden - without whom we wouldn't know about intrusive government surveillance programs, the United States' aggressive drone strike program, or that Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign manager and his brother are apparently into 'spirit cooking' with a satanic performance artist. According to Stone, pardoning the pair of whistleblowers "will take the edge off his pardons for his family & loyalists by being unselfish and not self-serving. And at the least, confound his many critics -- as well as future historians." Second, "It will drive his enemies in #DeepState and #Media absolutely nuts!" … Mr. President, if you grant only one act of clemency during your time in office, please: free Julian Assange. You alone can save his life. @realDonaldTrump — Edward Snowden (@Snowden) December 3, 2020 … I first became aware of Oliver Stone when in 1986 I was watching his film Salvador with an audience of left-wing Santa Barbarians. They were enjoying this madcap cinematic indictment of Uncle Sam’s imperialist crimes in Central America—until a scene in which the rebel forces, riding to town like a Marxist cavalry in the righteous cause of The People, began executing the unenlightened. Then the boos rang down. Who is this guy, I wondered. My curiosity was whetted further when the P.C. reviewer in the Los Angeles Herald denounced Stone’s screenplays for earlier films: “Movies like Midnight Express, Scarface, and Year of the Dragon are such grand-scale xenophobic fever-dreams that they almost demand to be remade into operas, complete with belching smoke and lurid lighting and crimson-suited devils scurrying out of the wings to pitchfork lily-white Mother America.” Ah, a left-wing America Firster! Not quite, as his subsequent work and his entertaining new memoir, Chasing the Light, illumine, but Oliver Stone, our most political major filmmaker, evinces a rowdily heterodox vision shaped by the unusual quartet of Jim Morrison, Sam Peckinpah, Frank Capra, and Jean-Luc Godard. … At root, Oliver Stone is a patriot who despises the American Empire for corrupting his country. ...
"Hillary Hates Him & Biden Calls Him A Terrorist" - Aussie MP Urges Trump To Pardon Assange https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hillary-hates-him-biden-calls-him-terror... Nationals MP George Christensen has joined the growing chorus of activists calling for President Trump to pardon WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange before he leaves the White House. Assange is currently being held in London's Belmarsh prison, awaiting a decision on his extradition case to the US. On Saturday, in an interview with Sky News Australia, Christensen told Sky News host Brent O'Halloran that Assange "has been a target of the Democrats, adding that "Hillary Clinton hates his guts, obviously, for exposing who the real Hillary was, and you've had a war on Assange by the Democrats and the deep state." https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6215841125001?fbclid=IwAR0mJwJFobX1OMCya... He told O'Halloran that president-elect ["elect"? Zerohedge, seriously? not even scare quotes?] Joe Biden has called Assange a criminal and a "hi-tech terrorist." Christensen argues that a pardon for the WikiLeaks founder "is one way which he can stand up for free speech." He said it would irritate the Democratic establishment and would "poke the deep state in the eye." ... and let me add: it's the right and moral thing to do... On Sun, Dec 06, 2020 at 08:53:48PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 04:59:02AM +0000, CANNON wrote:
Rumor has it Trump is planning on pardoning Julian Assange, founder of whistleblower website Wikileaks.
Snowden: "Mr. President, if you grant only one act of clemency during your time in office, please: free Julian Assange. You alone can save his life."
Oliver Stone: Here's Why Trump Should Pardon Snowden, Assange https://www.zerohedge.com/political/oliver-stone-heres-why-trump-should-pard...
Filmmaker Oliver Stone has joined the growing chorus of activists calling for President Trump to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden - without whom we wouldn't know about intrusive government surveillance programs, the United States' aggressive drone strike program, or that Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign manager and his brother are apparently into 'spirit cooking' with a satanic performance artist.
According to Stone, pardoning the pair of whistleblowers "will take the edge off his pardons for his family & loyalists by being unselfish and not self-serving. And at the least, confound his many critics -- as well as future historians."
Second, "It will drive his enemies in #DeepState and #Media absolutely nuts!"
… Mr. President, if you grant only one act of clemency during your time in office, please: free Julian Assange. You alone can save his life. @realDonaldTrump — Edward Snowden (@Snowden) December 3, 2020
… I first became aware of Oliver Stone when in 1986 I was watching his film Salvador with an audience of left-wing Santa Barbarians. They were enjoying this madcap cinematic indictment of Uncle Sam’s imperialist crimes in Central America—until a scene in which the rebel forces, riding to town like a Marxist cavalry in the righteous cause of The People, began executing the unenlightened. Then the boos rang down.
Who is this guy, I wondered. My curiosity was whetted further when the P.C. reviewer in the Los Angeles Herald denounced Stone’s screenplays for earlier films: “Movies like Midnight Express, Scarface, and Year of the Dragon are such grand-scale xenophobic fever-dreams that they almost demand to be remade into operas, complete with belching smoke and lurid lighting and crimson-suited devils scurrying out of the wings to pitchfork lily-white Mother America.”
Ah, a left-wing America Firster!
Not quite, as his subsequent work and his entertaining new memoir, Chasing the Light, illumine, but Oliver Stone, our most political major filmmaker, evinces a rowdily heterodox vision shaped by the unusual quartet of Jim Morrison, Sam Peckinpah, Frank Capra, and Jean-Luc Godard.
… At root, Oliver Stone is a patriot who despises the American Empire for corrupting his country.
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