Corporate undercover nation-state agents
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/10/core-secrets/ "But the briefing document suggests another category of employees—ones who are secretly working for the NSA without anyone else being aware. This kind of double game, in which the NSA works with and against its corporate partners, already characterizes some of the agency’s work, in which information or concessions that it desires are surreptitiously acquired if corporations will not voluntarily comply. The reference to “under cover” agents jumped out at two security experts who reviewed the NSA documents for The Intercept. “That one bullet point, it’s really strange,” said Matthew Green, a cryptographer at Johns Hopkins University. “I don’t know how to interpret it.” He added that the cryptography community in America would be surprised and upset if it were the case that “people are inside [an American] company covertly communicating with NSA and they are not known to the company or to their fellow employees.” The ACLU’s Soghoian said technology executives are already deeply concerned about the prospect of clandestine agents on the payroll to gain access to highly sensitive data, including encryption keys, that could make the NSA’s work “a lot easier.” “As more and more communications become encrypted, the attraction for intelligence agencies of stealing an encryption key becomes irresistible,” he said. “It’s such a juicy target.”
this is old news and fuck firstlook fucking ebay paypal pierre is a super fucking neo-liberal capitalist pig that prosecuted the paypal14 asked for millions in reparations he is a corporate warmonger On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 3:20 AM, <bluelotus@openmailbox.org> wrote:
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/10/core-secrets/
"But the briefing document suggests another category of employees--ones who are secretly working for the NSA without anyone else being aware. This kind of double game, in which the NSA works with and against its corporate partners, already characterizes some of the agency's work, in which information or concessions that it desires are surreptitiously acquired if corporations will not voluntarily comply. The reference to "under cover" agents jumped out at two security experts who reviewed the NSA documents for The Intercept.
"That one bullet point, it's really strange," said Matthew Green, a cryptographer at Johns Hopkins University. "I don't know how to interpret it." He added that the cryptography community in America would be surprised and upset if it were the case that "people are inside [an American] company covertly communicating with NSA and they are not known to the company or to their fellow employees."
The ACLU's Soghoian said technology executives are already deeply concerned about the prospect of clandestine agents on the payroll to gain access to highly sensitive data, including encryption keys, that could make the NSA's work "a lot easier."
"As more and more communications become encrypted, the attraction for intelligence agencies of stealing an encryption key becomes irresistible," he said. "It's such a juicy target."
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On 10/11/14, Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
this is old news and fuck firstlook fucking ebay paypal pierre is a super fucking neo-liberal capitalist pig that prosecuted the paypal14 asked for millions in reparations he is a corporate warmonger
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he is such a capitalist no ethical clue On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 1:43 AM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/11/14, Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
this is old news and fuck firstlook fucking ebay paypal pierre is a super fucking neo-liberal capitalist pig that prosecuted the paypal14 asked for millions in reparations he is a corporate warmonger
i hear weev likes the guy, http://cryptome.org/2014/10/haefer-auernheimer.jpg
my likes can be had for a modest $1,000,000,000 USD. step right up!
see also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Vmhih9x74&feature=youtu.be "The Hacker Wars"
best regards,
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This ProPublica story is one of the few by ProPublica that is actually very silly and not well researched. It wasn't necessary to have newly disclosed NSA documents referred to in the article to figure out and report on that there are ""contractual relationships" between the NSA and U.S. companies, as well as the fact that the NSA has "under cover" spies working at or with some U.S. companies." The reason why it wasn't necessary? Because it's been well established for years and it is not a secret that this is the case. TAREX, undercover agents, and of course, "corporate parters" referred to in the Intercept overview of the documents cited, can all claim (if pressed) that they are merely following the "voluntary DIB" ~ the DoD Defense Industrial Base Voluntary Cyber Security and Information Assurance rule, a.k.a. DOD-2009-OS-0183-0001 (CFR: 32 CFR Part 236; Federal Register Number: 2012-10651). For details, See: http://privacysos.org/node/641 (from 5/11/2012!!!) Some of the same language of the "administrative rule" referred to in the privacysos article, was later adopted by Congress, as H.Amdt.44 to H.R.624 (Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act) which passed the House in 2013, but was not enacted as there was too much opposition to allow it to move onto and pass the Senate. Independent of Congress's legislative process, the administrative rule was finalized and continues to be used today as a part of the basis for the corporation-state's activity. All of the corporation-state crimes against humanity are generally committed in full public view. They have no shame. You can't vote them out or demand they change (though it helps to publicly oppose what they are doing ~ I appreciate TheOpenMedia's recent efforts, for example, as shown at: https://openmedia.org/digitalfuture In general though, to address these rampant problems in a way that really alters the funding and ultimate disposition of resources that society has (assuming we don't want all our diminishing resources thrown down the gov-hole), the only thing we can do is empower people to remove resources from this deeply flawed system as we build new ones. Cheers, -Odinn https://keybase.io/odinn On 2014-10-16 07:30, bluelotus@openmailbox.org wrote:
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