Re: GoldBug SF projects [was: Bittorrent Bleep]
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff <czarkoff@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi!
Attn czarkoff: Background threads for reference in your wikipedia work https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2014-September/thread.html https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2014-September/005505.html
keywords: goldbug messenger, firefloo communicator, lib spot-on, echo protocol, cassiopeia bitmail, dooble web browser, interface social network
I am not sure how I can help here.
In those threads and links following from the above are people showing that these 'goldbug' related projects have serious trust issues and may be some form of malware/crapware. Read the linked threads for more info. If you search around wikipedia for these projects and look at their edit, talk and contributor histories you can find their edit trails there. Bogus listings is their way of free advertising and luring gullible users to them. I don't know much about how these things are handled within wikipedia community. But I have seen articles that have 'Controversy' sections in them. So if I were an editor I'd add exactly such a controversy section to all the pages... that some people see big issues with these projects. And back it up with links out to these threads on the cpunks, gnupg, and tor lists. At least that way it's on wikipedia history for people to see. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/GoldBug_(softwa...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:GoldBug_(software) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoldBug_(Instant_Messenger) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_(communications_protocol) Saw your arguments on the deletion page and figured you would like to be aware of these issues as well.
Il 9/24/14, 12:51 AM, grarpamp ha scritto:
Saw your arguments on the deletion page and figured you would like to be aware of these issues as well.
Time has come, after few years of such very likely malicious/suspicious activities, we have to strike back. Kudos moritz! Is it worth making a small website to clearly put all of those information in a collaborative way, published online? The only way such "suspicious" projects will have to recover is by being transparent on who they are, who pay them, what's their goal ;) -- Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) HERMES - Center for Transparency and Digital Human Rights http://logioshermes.org - http://globaleaks.org - http://tor2web.org
Dnia środa, 24 września 2014 09:38:54 Fabio Pietrosanti pisze:
Il 9/24/14, 12:51 AM, grarpamp ha scritto:
Saw your arguments on the deletion page and figured you would like to be aware of these issues as well.
Time has come, after few years of such very likely malicious/suspicious activities, we have to strike back.
Kudos moritz!
Is it worth making a small website to clearly put all of those information in a collaborative way, published online?
The only way such "suspicious" projects will have to recover is by being transparent on who they are, who pay them, what's their goal ;)
How about putting all this, with sources, on this project's WikiPedia page? Seriously, there is no better place for it. :) -- Pozdr rysiek
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Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
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grarpamp
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rysiek