Fyi... This thread is ongoing and is having problems... The first... Message-ID: <CAD2Ti2-vW_6Xcg696cXLyV+5HZa6-GqD+n+erSAgma4m6Gy7nA@mail.gmail.com> with recipients 1 To + 18 Cc + 1 Bcc cpunks the cpunks server did some as yet undertermined sort method to the cc line, and stripped two people from it entirely (schear and echeque). One of the direct 18 replied offlist with the complete set of 19 visibles in proper original order, so this end is working fine and cpunks is broken. The second... Message-ID: <CAD2Ti2_nB4owJLSfe6e-hy1KALiCdb0UfH9mjtnbgvL+gkOWyQ@mail.gmail.com> with recipients 2 To (1 being cpunks) + 18 Cc + 0 Bcc has not shown up yet, whereas other later messages to cpunks have shown up. Also... Bcc's from list subscribers should be set or hacked to post without hitting the mod queue. The server is running old... mailman 2.1.16 from 2013-10-17 whereas current is... mailman 2.1.29 from 2018-07-24 The 1100 lines of documented updates between those two, including 5 CVEs, are here... https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/view/head:/NEWS http://list.org/