Jim Bell says: "I got stuck in prison for 13 years and Pamela Anderson didn't visit me ONCE!!!"
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/pamela-anderson-julian-assanges-health-deteriorating/story?id=65430282& Actress and model Pamela Anderson told "The View" co-hosts on Friday that WikiLeaksfounder Julian Assange is physically "not so good" as he serves his 11-month sentence at a high security British prison.The long-time confidante of the whistleblower expressed concern about Assange's well-being as he still faces possible extradition to the U.S. "His health is really deteriorating. He has lost about 30 pounds I think since I saw him, and he was thin at that point," Anderson told "The View" co-hosts Whoopi Goldberg, Abby Huntsman, Joy Behar, Sunny Hostin and Meghan McCain. Anderson noted that because Assange "wanted to look good" for her, he wore two pairs of sweat pants in an effort to mask his weight loss. "He feels like people won't fight for people if they’re not resilient, and he is the most resilient person I’ve ever met," she said. MORE: ANALYSIS: Making sense of the WikiLeaks CIA hacking exposé Assange skipped bail in 2012 to avoid extradition to Sweden, where he was wanted on sexual assault allegations, which he denied. The charges were subsequently dropped, but Swedish authorities announced they were reopening their investigation in May. After seven years of hiding at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, Assange was arrested by United Kingdom authorities in April. Nearly one month later in May 1, Assange was sentenced to 50 weeks in prison at Southwark Crown Court in central London. He read a letter to the court apologizing to those who "consider I have disrespected them," adding that he had struggled in difficult circumstances. Following the London arrest, federal U.S. prosecutors unsealed an indictment against him, charging him for allegedly conspiring with former intelligence officer Chelsea Manning in an effort to unlawfully gain access to a government computer in 2010. The breach is considered one of the largest thefts of classified government information in American history. Assange as well as his supporters have claimed he had no role in hacking Democratic documents or harvesting other government secrets, maintaining that he functioned as a journalist and publisher. The charges against Assange continue to raise concerns about the ripple effects it will have on press freedom.
Because libertarians don't meet her ethical or erotic standards Capitalist Cucks. Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
On Sat, 07 Sep 2019 08:20:26 -0700 Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
Because libertarians don't meet her ethical or erotic standards
isn't assange a libertarian?
Capitalist Cucks. Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
On 9/7/19 3:02 PM, Punk wrote:
On Sat, 07 Sep 2019 08:20:26 -0700 Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
Because libertarians don't meet her ethical or erotic standards
isn't assange a libertarian?
That "is" business presents lots of pitfalls, especially when applied to humans. Assange certainly represents himself as anti-authoritarian, and his actions speak way louder than his words on that front. But our Libertarians present as crypto-fascists, given that implementing their utopian visions would only remove the few restraints on our present rulers, shifting the balance of power in society even further in their direction. Note that by "rulers" I mean folks like the 500 billionaires who presently own 1/2 the capital assets in the United States, population 360 million or so. "It takes about 3/4 million peasants to support one dominant billionaire." Not shocked yet? Check out this simple graph of U.S. income distribution, scaled relative to familiar physical objects: http://lcurve.org Assange does pay attention to political power in a process oriented perspective. See his "The non linear effects of leaks on unjust systems of governance" ( https://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf ). So I doubt he could identify with the "Rand Fan" version of Libertarianism. That leaves Anarchism. Some anarchists do call themselves Libertarian, to avoid personal blowback from the demonization of anarchists - one of the few propaganda lines /all/ repressive States agree on - but somehow that don't sound like our Mendax. He does seem to favor the rights of local communities over those of absentee landlords, which strikes me as an anti-Libertarian position. Like the Marxists before them, Libertarians present their proposed changes as a bridge to Utopian anarchy. But a familiar model involving Lucy, Charlie Brown and a football seems to fit both cases... :o/
On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:10:28 -0400 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
On 9/7/19 3:02 PM, Punk wrote:
On Sat, 07 Sep 2019 08:20:26 -0700 Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
Because libertarians don't meet her ethical or erotic standards
isn't assange a libertarian?
That "is" business presents lots of pitfalls, especially when applied to humans. Assange certainly represents himself as anti-authoritarian, and his actions speak way louder than his words on that front.
Yeah. And Jim Bell does have a point. He was persecuted and tortured(jailed) by his government a lot longer(so far) than Assange.
But our Libertarians present as crypto-fascists, given that implementing their utopian visions would only remove the few restraints on our present rulers,
Well yeah. Vast majority of 'libertarians are libertarians in name only.
shifting the balance of power in society even further in their direction. Note that by "rulers" I mean folks like the 500 billionaires who presently own 1/2 the capital assets in the United States, population 360 million or so.
That's the 'corp' bit in govcorp. Now, the billionaires are not the only rulers. The billionaires NEED the US army and cops to protect them. Without the army and cops, the billionaires would be made into minced meat, like they deserve.
"It takes about 3/4 million peasants to support one dominant billionaire." Not shocked yet? Check out this simple graph of U.S. income distribution, scaled relative to familiar physical objects:
Now, just like libertarians are fake libertarians and in reality support the status quo, so do 'progressives'. Taxing the criminals at the top some more, even if the increase in taxation levels is substantial, won't change anything. As a matter of fact it will make things worse because it will keep the system going and have the masses believe in more in state 'authority'. So what is needed is the actual libertarian solution, which means abolition of the state AND restitution - which in turn means expropiation of the ruling class, both the civilian AND military branches of it.
Assange does pay attention to political power in a process oriented perspective. See his "The non linear effects of leaks on unjust systems of governance" ( https://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf ). So I doubt he could identify with the "Rand Fan" version of Libertarianism.
Yeah that version of libertarianism isn't libertarianism at all. Rand was a textbook case of american fascist who used some libertarian rhetoric to disguise her actual objectives. The rand cunt was literally a US military propaganda agent - here's the pertinent document (the cunt's own words) : https://www.aynrand.org/novels/philosophy-who-needs-it
That leaves Anarchism.
That leaves a free market operating according to liberal 'rules' or natural law. And yeah such free market requires the abolition of government.
Some anarchists do call themselves Libertarian, to avoid personal blowback from the demonization of anarchists -
Well, actual libertarianism, or better actual liberalism - the original term - does require the abolition of the state because, obviously, personal rights and the state are mutually exclusive. Besides, just like there are fake libertarians, there are fake anarchists too. Specifically the left wingers/marxists who pose as 'anarchists' but in reality support state communism. So the term anarchist can be misleading without further clarifications.
one of the few propaganda lines /all/ repressive States agree on - but somehow that don't sound like our Mendax. He does seem to favor the rights of local communities over those of absentee landlords, which strikes me as an anti-Libertarian position.
Like the Marxists before them, Libertarians present their proposed changes as a bridge to Utopian anarchy. But a familiar model involving Lucy, Charlie Brown and a football seems to fit both cases...
:o/
On September 9, 2019 1:38:35 PM PDT, Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
Besides, just like there are fake libertarians, there are fake anarchists too. Specifically the left wingers/marxists who pose as 'anarchists' but in reality support state communism.
Actually it's just a phase they go through before the withering away of the state... PERHAPS they MIGHT go back to being plain old capitalist greedheads, or always were, like Doug Henwood, "Marxist" investment advisor. But Libertarians. They're capitalists and are always going to be capitalists. Therefore, human scum. Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
On Mon, 09 Sep 2019 21:39:34 -0700 Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
On September 9, 2019 1:38:35 PM PDT, Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
Besides, just like there are fake libertarians, there are fake anarchists too. Specifically the left wingers/marxists who pose as 'anarchists' but in reality support state communism.
Actually it's just a phase they go through before the withering away of the state...
lawl - the piece of jew shit tazer must be drunk or something. There's no 'withering away of the state' sonny - and you are indeed a textbook case of left wing fascist - a castro cocksucker posing as 'anarchist'. Also, I pointed out that the jew-kristian quaker theocrats push NSA malware from google and got the following vomit from agent tazer :
IOW the captcha is doing it's job and keeping trolling scum like you from spamming their contact form. That's typically why ajax.googleapi is called.
So in case there's any doubt that you're some sort of government troll, every post you make provides further proof. Thanks. Oh yeah, 'captchas' from 'google' are 100% 'legitimate' especially for 'cypherpunks'...like you. (and there was no captcha actually, just shitty html that doesn't render without JS - worse than pathetic).
On September 9, 2019 10:31:31 PM PDT, Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
Oh yeah,'captchas' from 'google' are 100% 'legitimate' especially for 'cypherpunks'...like you. (and there was no captcha actually, just shitty html that doesn't render without JS - worse than pathetic).
Who said they were legitimate Juan? I said it keeps you from spamming that contact form so it did it's job ... no matter the JS or it's nefarinebulous purpose. Given that outcome... I'd say ajax.googleapi EVERYWHERE! and perhaps there's some way to add it to mailman listerv software to be embedded in every mail it distributes. m|m Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 08:09:04 -0700 Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
Given that outcome... I'd say ajax.googleapi EVERYWHERE! and perhaps there's some way to add it to mailman listerv software to be embedded in every mail it distributes. m|m
you reached the end of your shelflife a long time ago, jew scumbag. I suggest you die ASAP.
On September 10, 2019 2:04:15 PM PDT, Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> opined:
you reached the end of your shelflife a long time ago, jew scumbag. I suggest you die ASAP.
Sorry to disappoint you but I just finished a physical exam for the first time in a decade, and I don't even have an STD. (That's a hint that you can sux my dick.) Doc told me to lower my cholesterol... I told him I wasn't going to stop eating the rich. You're stuck with me cuck. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
On September 10, 2019 10:51:11 PM UTC, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
On September 10, 2019 2:04:15 PM PDT, Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> opined:
you reached the end of your shelflife a long time ago, jew scumbag. I suggest you die ASAP.
Sorry to disappoint you but I just finished a physical exam for the first time in a decade, and I don't even have an STD.
(That's a hint that you can sux my dick.)
Doc told me to lower my cholesterol... I told him I wasn't going to stop eating the rich.
You're stuck with me cuck.
I think we can all agree Google is evil, Juan and Razer despise one another, but most importantly - "cuck" is a fucking asinine insult. Maybe you meant fuck? My two cents on this remarkably erudite thread ;)
On 2019-09-12 22:01, John Newman wrote:
I think we can all agree Google is evil, Juan and Razer despise one another, but most importantly - "cuck" is a fucking asinine insult. Maybe you meant fuck?
A cuck is someone who is cuckolded, and accepts it, rather than killing her or at least ditching her. To be a man, have to own your women. It is an accusation of unmanliness.
On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:10:28 -0400 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
add on : I can't help but noticing that that page has a couple of advertising links to amazon.com ... also, this title " Thinking About War and Participation in War" caught my eye so I clicked...and ended up at... http://quaker.org/contact/ ...and it turns out that quaker.org wants to run JS malware from ajax.googleapis.com - and if you don't allow them to run malware on your system then their page doesn't work. So Steve you might want to educate your 'friends'? Tell them that running NSA-govcorp malware on people's system without their consent is really nasty? =) Tell them to not use fucking javashit at all...
On September 9, 2019 1:56:20 PM PDT, Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:10:28 -0400 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
add on : I can't help but noticing that that page has a couple of advertising links to amazon.com ...
also, this title " Thinking About War and Participation in War" caught my eye so I clicked...and ended up at... http://quaker.org/contact/
...and it turns out that quaker.org wants to run JS malware from ajax.googleapis.com - and if you don't allow them to run malware on your system then their page doesn't work. So Steve you might want to educate your 'friends'? Tell them that running NSA-govcorp malware on people's system without their consent is really nasty? =) Tell them to not use fucking javashit at all...
IOW the captcha is doing it's job and keeping trolling scum like you from spamming their contact form. That's typically why ajax.googleapi is called. Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
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