On Dec 29, 2016, at 2:52 AM, juan wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:35:45 +0200 Georgi Guninski wrote:

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What are some major fuckups in the year of 2016?

tens of millions of children were born - that's a major fuckup and the source of all other fuck ups.

But abortion and birth control are a crime against god and the US of A(ssholes).. I commit genocide in a sock once a day or so.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 03:02:46PM -0300, juan wrote:

Luckily, you can avoid going straight to hell if you accept Jesus as your Personal Saviour =)

dear juan, no matter if you believe in gravity and/or jesus, at least some of them work unconditionally. likely jesus may save your soul, despite your dirty language.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Georgi Guninski wrote:

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 03:02:46PM -0300, juan wrote:

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Luckily, you can avoid going straight to hell if you accept Jesus as your Personal Saviour =)

dear juan, no matter if you believe in gravity and/or jesus, at least some of them work unconditionally. likely jesus may save your soul, despite your dirty language.

Religion often requires that one accept it. Unlike gravity, that's not unconditional. Given that many religions claim exclusive [even murderous] correctness over other religions, acceptance of any one of them or [the performance of] their conditions could prove to be a colossal waste of thought, time and resources.

From: Razer On 12/29/2016 01:25 AM, John Newman wrote: On Dec 29, 2016, at 2:35 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:

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What are some major fuckups in the year of 2016?

The ridiculous water catastrophe in Flint, Michigan. If you live in Fruitvale, a San Francisco Bay area town, your water is poison. More lead in it than Flint Michigan.  Yes, the Flint episode is "ridiculous".  But the reason is that in shifting to Flint River water from Detroit water, those in charge "forgot" to add about $100/day in pH adjustors and anti-corrosion additives:  Had they done that, there would simply have been no story, nothing for the media to cover.  I think it can be argued (and I argue) that this can only have been explained as a deliberate attempt to sabotage these cost-savings.  The lead involved isn't in the water in the Flint River:  Rather, the lead which becomes the problem is leached from the (old) piping system, including in houses themselves.  "Forget" to add pH adjustors, and the water itself becomes slightly corrosive, so people begin to drink lead from piping that had been around for 50 years without problems.  Fortunately, there have been criminal charges, and there will be charges.  We will all find out why the staff has been sabotaging the water supply system. If I recall correctly (and I might be wrong about this) Fruitvale was one of the places early in the Personal Computer boom where the silicon valley kept it's machine shops and filthy filthy wafer fab operations... Before they found out how toxic wafer fab ops were and moved them to third world countries where they could poison people at will.

That sounds like nonsense to me.  Wafer fabs employ some of the purest water used in any industrial used.  And they recycle water, because it's actually much cheaper to remove the very small quantities of added contaminants than to start from "new" water, let's say well-water. Further, I am not aware that lead is a component in any operation related to silicon wafers.  It's possible that the soil in this area contains more lead than most areas, but that's not the fault of the wafer fabs. http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2016/12/28/east-bay-lead-exposu... You are trying to mislead by using this article.  It doesn't even explain from where the lead comes.               Jim Bell

On 12/29/2016 01:16 PM, jim bell wrote:

You are trying to mislead by using this article. It doesn't even explain from where the lead comes.

Maybe they don't KNOW where the lead comes from. Does that mean it isn't newsworthy? Do tell. Does that mean I'm 'misleading'? Do tell. Rr

On 12/30/2016 01:50 PM, jim bell wrote:

*From:* Razer

On 12/29/2016 01:16 PM, jim bell wrote:

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You are trying to mislead by using this article. It doesn't even explain from where the lead comes.

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Maybe they don't KNOW where the lead comes from. Does that mean it isn't newsworthy?

You are trying to connect this lead with wafer fabs. That is the misleading part.

No I was tying the larger issue of the toxicity of the legacy of the computer industry's early daze when they still manufactured in the US into this. Because historic perspective, like black lives, matters. I WASN'T DEBATING anyone and I can expound and extrapolate as I fucking well please. There's no obligation to point out those 'flights of fancy' either. It's all on the intellect of the reader to figure it the fuck out. I don't even know for sure Fruitvale was a location for those sorts of (not just wafer fab) machine operations, and was obviously 'reaching out' for information about that, and you're trolling me motherfucker. Rr

https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/12/29/1412220/singapore-will-add-iris-scan... https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/12/29/1752212/us-announces-response-to-ru... 2016 is still rolling in ;)

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 3:14 PM, juan wrote:

so custom made 'cosmetic' contact lenses are needed?

You will be forced to remove them, just like you must remove your full hijab, clown suit, etc... and jailed if enumeration and control is required by the state. Or denied service by all parties and sent away to live as an outcast / illegal if it isn't. If that doesn't work for you, you can always marry someone rich and live off them, or at least shack up if the state demands ID to marry. Less than 80 years and a few generations ago, most places there was no such thing as ID, let alone needed or required. Pretty fucked up.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 04:25:44AM -0500, John Newman wrote:

The ridiculous water catastrophe in Flint, Michigan.

Speaking of water, some experts keep important stuff connected to the internet of things: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/24/water_utility_hacked/ Water treatment plant hacked, chemical mix changed for tap supplies