Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers?
Used to be you'd be accused of being COINTELPRO, now it's JTRIG. "Differing opinion"? Almost never an option. Different=wrong-bad-evil-enemy-hate-suspect-accuse. On technical issues, I'm definitely a neophyte, but I'd been in contact with JYA for quite sometime, he'd published a few documents I supplied and shared many links on twitter. You'd think that would get him to look at the data before smearing me. As for off-message? That's a spin term. I'm not anti-authoritarian enough, I guess - that's quite possible by some standards. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 5:43 PM, <cypherpunks-request@cpunks.org> wrote:
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1. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Razer) 2. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (bbrewer) 3. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Shelley) 4. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (John Young) 5. Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Alfie John) 6. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Michael Best) 7. Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Dr. J Feinstein) 8. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Dr. J Feinstein) 9. Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Travis Biehn)
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:25:03 -0700 From: Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> To: cypherpunks@cpunks.org Subject: Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? Message-ID: <561AC59F.9070508@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
On 10/11/2015 01:04 PM, Michael Best wrote:
That would explain keeping silent, *NOT* making up lies about me and saying the data is fake.
I'm not going to make JYA's argument here, even if what's been assumed is fact, but the strategy would be a stall at least with the potential for redirection from the 'dead canary' hypothesis because it's typical for people to explode into useless flame wars over the 'leakage' instead of giving serious thought beyond ego/profit motives to why the leak occurred.
But, as a notable scientist once said... "Yes, but the whole point of the warrant canary is lost if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell the world, eh!?!"
I choose my words for my own amusement. You got the other neophytes riled up - they're not sure how to respond to chaotic disclosure, they want to know; "what does it all mean". The old guard grumbles, SSDD. I don't think you're COINTELPRO/JTRIG Mike. It does amuse me, however, how quick everyone is to defend/attack on a non-event, spitting someone out of this community would be pretty easy, should the powers be deem it important enough. -Travis On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Michael Best <themikebest@gmail.com> wrote:
Used to be you'd be accused of being COINTELPRO, now it's JTRIG. "Differing opinion"? Almost never an option. Different=wrong-bad-evil-enemy-hate-suspect-accuse.
On technical issues, I'm definitely a neophyte, but I'd been in contact with JYA for quite sometime, he'd published a few documents I supplied and shared many links on twitter. You'd think that would get him to look at the data before smearing me. As for off-message? That's a spin term. I'm not anti-authoritarian enough, I guess - that's quite possible by some standards.
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 5:43 PM, <cypherpunks-request@cpunks.org> wrote:
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Razer) 2. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (bbrewer) 3. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Shelley) 4. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (John Young) 5. Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Alfie John) 6. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Michael Best) 7. Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Dr. J Feinstein) 8. Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Dr. J Feinstein) 9. Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? (Travis Biehn)
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:25:03 -0700 From: Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> To: cypherpunks@cpunks.org Subject: Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers? Message-ID: <561AC59F.9070508@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
On 10/11/2015 01:04 PM, Michael Best wrote:
That would explain keeping silent, *NOT* making up lies about me and saying the data is fake.
I'm not going to make JYA's argument here, even if what's been assumed is fact, but the strategy would be a stall at least with the potential for redirection from the 'dead canary' hypothesis because it's typical for people to explode into useless flame wars over the 'leakage' instead of giving serious thought beyond ego/profit motives to why the leak occurred.
But, as a notable scientist once said... "Yes, but the whole point of the warrant canary is lost if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell the world, eh!?!"
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