Re: USA: National Security Strategy, Juan's Wet Dream -- OFF-TOPIC (James Donald is a creep)
On Dec 30, 2017 20:21, <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote: On 12/28/2017 07:42 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Who will cry for your death, James? Who will miss you? Nobody.
Social Justice Warriors always project. I hear the voice of a woman who has cats instead of children. When you die, no one will notice, and your cats will eat you. I have children, I have grandchildren. You think you have friends, but observe how progressives treat their "friends". When progs die, their cats eat them. Oh, dear... Are you hearing the voice of a woman who has cats instead of children? Are you sure? Another time, like you mentioned a semester ago and also last year? :(( So you are listening really bad and/or imagining things, my poor old James... Tsk, tsk... Evident signals of dementia. :-/ Well, in your age, becoming senile and mixing facts, sounds, and memories is very natural, but I sincerely recommend you to search for some good medical care in 2018, if you can pay for it, of course. Good psychiatrists and otolaryngologists (ENT doctors) are really expensive in your country. Trump f_cked the healthcare pretty well in only one year, didn't he? ;) I do *not* have cats or any pets and already wrote it so many times here that even a senile old man like you could remember. And already said several times why are my reasons for not having children. It was my personal choice and I will never regret it, even loving very, very much children and my never born daughters and sons... I want to protect them of people like you, Zenaan, Trump, of this unfair world, full of hate and stupid prejudices... <\3 Well, in any case, did you already try DNA exams? Considering your "fascinating personality", I bet your children can easily being postman's and milkman's kids, hihihi... :) Well, anyway, having children and grandchildren means absolutely nothing, James. N-O-T-H-I-N-G, do you understand? No real warranty of mourning, drama, and tears. Why do you think they will miss you? Or will sincerely cry for your death? These are a few of all the probabilities to be considered, if you have at least one single active neuron, James. Too hard for you? Oh, poor old man! Let me help you with very simple explanations, something nearby to your intellectual level... :) They probably hate you and/or feel deeply ashamed of being related to someone so odious, bitter, and cruel like you, that always writes hateful texts, full of all kinds of stupid prejudices, and, all the semesters, tries to hurt me mentioning exactly the same things... Aff, you are so repetitive that it probably is an obvious signal of Alzheimer's disease... :(( You always say you have children and grandchildren (I will only believe after receiving all the DNA exams results, haha!!) and that I will be eaten by my inexistent cats because nobody will notice my death, blah, blah... So f_cking what? Why do you think it will hurt me, stupid and limited creature? :-/ I know it's very hard for you, but simply consider the obvious: - I do not care about your opinion. I do not respect you. I do not care about your life or your death, about what you had or have, about what you did or do. You means nothing for me. And just to register it another time, I do not fear my own death. I do really not care about my ending. What I fear, what hurts my heart and soul are my loved ones' deaths, their pains... Loving is much more important than living, even for people like me. I have different grades of love and friendship. Always had, but only this year, I finally learned to make the distinction between real friends and those "friends" who just remember my existence when need a lawyer, my contacts, or my knowledge about some non-public data, meetings, and materials. Some weeks ago, I was the only person in a group of religious studies to accept the hypothesis of dying in that exact moment. Already had a gorgeous life, true love, and true friends... Much music, all kind of readings and people crossed my way, and my life was very fun and interesting for myself. Full of unexpected dramas, certainly, but I had much more joys and sincere happiness than most of the humanity already had and I sincerely thank the Universe, or maybe God, for this beautiful life. <3 I really prefer to die just right now than walking to the East of Eden for all the eternity, never meeting the death, my own end. It's cruel and I cannot believe in a cruel God. You always say you are "Christian". OK, which is your Christian Church, James? There are hundreds of them in the whole world... :P
On 12/28/2017 07:42 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Who will cry for your death, James? Who will miss you? Nobody.
I have children, I have grandchildren. You think you have friends, but observe how progressives treat their "friends".
When progs die, their cats eat them.
On 1/1/2018 10:12 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
I do *not* have cats or any pets and already wrote it so many times here that even a senile old man like you could remember. And already said several times why are my reasons for not having children.
Your reason for not having children is the exact same reason as every other childless women. You wasted your hottest years screwing bad boys who never texted you back the morning after, and then one morning, you noticed that you had not received a nine at night booty call in a very long time. Some of women get off the cock carousel in time, and some of them don't want to waste one minute of their youth and beauty on a husband if they can avoid it, so they leave it too late to get off the bad boy cock carousel, misjudging how long their beauty and fertility will last. (Hint, not very long at all) Social Justice warriors have no friends, as we see proven in the news every day. They merely have allies, who are allies only for so long as the alliance is useful. So you have no friends, and when you are old, you will have no kin. Television tells women that they can stay on the cock carousel forever, and when they are fat and forty a six foot six billionaire vampire king will fall madly in love with them. And they believe it, and get upset whenever Hollywood casts a female lead who is actually hot. Biology is that old men can still father children, but old women cannot. So an old man can have a second time around, more children and more love, but a woman only gets one chance at it, and so many women are so busy screwing so many bad boys that they blow their one chance.
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 14:26:31 +1000 jamesd@echeque.com wrote:
Your reason for not having children is the exact same reason as every other childless women.
I wonder why are you obsessed with slave breeding?
On Jan 1, 2018 01:26, <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
Blah, blah, blah... <SNIP>
"Cock carousel", "bad boys", "Social Justice Warrior", "no friends"... Tsk, tsk... So sorry for you, James. Your senile dementia is evidently becoming pretty worse and, strangely, very "selective" about subjects related to your personal life. :) Why are you obviously avoiding to answer *which exactly is your church*, my darling? Fear of being rejected by all the other members? Or are you feeling ashamed for following a very stupid not recognized Christian church? Hihihi... ;) Well, I never was a "Social Justice Warrior" or claimed to be one of them. And I do really not understand why you think I don't have a social life, a family, and real good friends, people which deserve my most sincere love and care. Do you think I spend my free time searching for "allies"? Which kind of "alliance" and exactly for what, please? God, it makes no sense, aff... Did Gandalf invite me to a journey with hobbits, elves and dwarfs, and I wasn't informed about it yet? :P Seriously, James, I do also love German men, but your intense relationship with Dr. Alzheimer is becoming indecently explicit... :P If you are describing your own miserable life, please, do not project your loneliness and your social frustrations in me. I am not guilty if you had a "bad boy's cock carousel" and never received a call or a text in the day after. I swear it never was my case, darling. Hehe, Oriental charm, you know... Oh, no, you do *not* know, hahaha!!! ;D I am much better than you in several aspects, including the sexual one, obviously. I don't need Viagra or other drugs for being 'ready' and I don't need to sleep the whole night to get the 'second round', hahaha!!! ;D A few days ago, you wrote two very stupid messages showing your evident ignorance about feeding. You don't know anything about the difference between "vegetarian" and "vegan" diets and beliefs, even being f_cking easy to make a simple 5 minutes research and reading. So, I suggest you to read about "straight edge" people. You will spend only a few minutes and will learn a lot about me, poor old loser. Tell us which is your church, dear. Why are you being so shy? And why do you think you will never receive anonymous packs with dildos and anal beads in your so pure and sacred home, uh? :) Oh, and if you like talking to rejected, lonely, and needy bitches, you should consider to send your nasty messages to your friend Zenaan, not for me or to this list, James. :P You both should find more guys like you and making a hot "lemon party". Oh, it will be amazing if Trump accept your invitation, sweetie! You already said publicly that "he's very handsome, tall, and rich"! :D Well, it is what *you* search in a man, not me. I search for intelligence, character, and sense of humor. And Trump seems an old orange disgusting frog, but uglier and less intelligent and smart, eeeck!!! (>_<)* It was very embarrassing to receive lots of Zenaan's stupid messages begging for a bit of attention, mentioning my cuteness and intelligence, trying desperately to get an answer. He never understood I only appreciate intelligent men and the poor devil is so homophobic that will never leave the closet, even more the box, hahaha!! ;D Regards to your fictional "happy family", James. Hope you are not the father of some of your grandchildren, bad seed guy! Ugh, it's a pretty disgusting idea, but considering the kind of things that you always write, it's a possibility to be seriously considered... :(((
since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and since when has cpunks become a sexual diary? On 1 January 2018 at 20:55, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2018 01:26, <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
Blah, blah, blah... <SNIP>
"Cock carousel", "bad boys", "Social Justice Warrior", "no friends"... Tsk, tsk... So sorry for you, James. Your senile dementia is evidently becoming pretty worse and, strangely, very "selective" about subjects related to your personal life. :)
Why are you obviously avoiding to answer *which exactly is your church*, my darling? Fear of being rejected by all the other members? Or are you feeling ashamed for following a very stupid not recognized Christian church? Hihihi... ;)
Well, I never was a "Social Justice Warrior" or claimed to be one of them. And I do really not understand why you think I don't have a social life, a family, and real good friends, people which deserve my most sincere love and care.
Do you think I spend my free time searching for "allies"? Which kind of "alliance" and exactly for what, please? God, it makes no sense, aff... Did Gandalf invite me to a journey with hobbits, elves and dwarfs, and I wasn't informed about it yet? :P
Seriously, James, I do also love German men, but your intense relationship with Dr. Alzheimer is becoming indecently explicit... :P
If you are describing your own miserable life, please, do not project your loneliness and your social frustrations in me. I am not guilty if you had a "bad boy's cock carousel" and never received a call or a text in the day after. I swear it never was my case, darling. Hehe, Oriental charm, you know... Oh, no, you do *not* know, hahaha!!! ;D
I am much better than you in several aspects, including the sexual one, obviously. I don't need Viagra or other drugs for being 'ready' and I don't need to sleep the whole night to get the 'second round', hahaha!!! ;D
A few days ago, you wrote two very stupid messages showing your evident ignorance about feeding. You don't know anything about the difference between "vegetarian" and "vegan" diets and beliefs, even being f_cking easy to make a simple 5 minutes research and reading.
So, I suggest you to read about "straight edge" people. You will spend only a few minutes and will learn a lot about me, poor old loser.
Tell us which is your church, dear. Why are you being so shy? And why do you think you will never receive anonymous packs with dildos and anal beads in your so pure and sacred home, uh? :)
Oh, and if you like talking to rejected, lonely, and needy bitches, you should consider to send your nasty messages to your friend Zenaan, not for me or to this list, James. :P
You both should find more guys like you and making a hot "lemon party". Oh, it will be amazing if Trump accept your invitation, sweetie! You already said publicly that "he's very handsome, tall, and rich"! :D
Well, it is what *you* search in a man, not me. I search for intelligence, character, and sense of humor. And Trump seems an old orange disgusting frog, but uglier and less intelligent and smart, eeeck!!! (>_<)*
It was very embarrassing to receive lots of Zenaan's stupid messages begging for a bit of attention, mentioning my cuteness and intelligence, trying desperately to get an answer. He never understood I only appreciate intelligent men and the poor devil is so homophobic that will never leave the closet, even more the box, hahaha!! ;D
Regards to your fictional "happy family", James. Hope you are not the father of some of your grandchildren, bad seed guy! Ugh, it's a pretty disgusting idea, but considering the kind of things that you always write, it's a possibility to be seriously considered... :(((
On Jan 1, 2018 17:46, "Ben Mezger" <su@seds.nl> wrote: since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and since when has cpunks become a sexual diary? You're correct, Ben. I'm very sorry and ask pardon to all the members of the CP list. It will not happen again. Well, avoiding conflicts is a lovely new year resolution, I admit. :) Take care and excuse me, dear all. c.
On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and since when has cpunks become a sexual diary?
Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and outright pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and dishonest spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$. Her posts are probably more on-topic than that sort of filth and fraudulent garbage. (Arguably the worst example of said filth and fraudulent garbage is changing the name of Lauren Weinstein's PFIR or People for Internet Responsibility to a misleading, fraudulent, and racist name, such that it makes it more difficult to fact-check the original postings.) Unmoderated lists like these work best only when the participants agree on a topic and to behave as decent people. While I understand the objections to moderating this list (note: NOT censoring, moderating), there's almost no point to having the list if it's not going to stay on a defined topic and if we as a community have no power to deal with those who habitually behave as anthropomorphic uncaged animals. If the "cypherpunks" banner is to mean anything, then we need to take it back from those who are using it as an excuse to be racists, homophobes, thieves, and liars. As someone who is today a citizen of good character, I feel I should be able to call myself a cypherpunk and maintain my membership here without risk of associating myself with those who engage in such putrid and/or criminal conduct as I have enumerated above. I believe a true cypherpunk is of good character (including honesty and a respect for basic standards of decency) and disown those who use the "cypherpunks" banner and mailing list to partake of and further conduct to the contrary. I'm no fan of personal attacks, and I can see how overt sexual content would be at least nominally off-topic, but those two things rank among the very least of our problems. -- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com> http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 23:07:57 -0600 "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote:
the objections to moderating this list (note: NOT censoring, moderating)
oh shill k quinn is back! Hey mr shill, it would be nice if you had something like 1% intellectual honesty and admited that you are an advocate of CENSORSHIP who doesn't even have the balls to call it CENSORSHIP and instead uses the hypocritical, euphemistical and just fraudulent term 'moderation'. But you see, it doesn't matter if you refer to CENSORSHIP as 'moderation' because it still is CENSORSHIP. Just like when you americans murder brown children for fun and profit and call it collateral murder, I mean, damage.
there's almost no point to having the list if it's not going to stay on a defined topic and if we as a community have no power to deal with those who habitually behave as anthropomorphic uncaged animals.
If the "cypherpunks" banner is to mean anything, then we need to take it back from those who are using it as an excuse to be racists, homophobes, thieves, and liars.
thieves and liars? Are you talking about your pals and tax parasites at the tor project? They are feminazis too! Really a monument to American Virtue.
As someone who is today a citizen of good character, I feel I should be able to call myself a cypherpunk
Tell us oh Great Master Philospher Shill Quinn, how does an STATIST and CENSOR (like you) become a cypherpunk? How do anonimity, free speech and anarchy relate to your love for CENSORSHIP and GOVERNMENT TYRANNY?
and maintain my membership here without risk of associating myself with those who engage in such putrid and/or criminal conduct as I have enumerated above. I believe a true cypherpunk is of good character (including honesty and a respect for basic standards of decency) and disown those who use the "cypherpunks" banner and mailing list to partake of and further conduct to the contrary.
I'm no fan of personal attacks, and I can see how overt sexual content would be at least nominally off-topic, but those two things rank among the very least of our problems.
On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 11:07:57PM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and since when has cpunks become a sexual diary?
Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and outright pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and dishonest spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$. Her posts are probably more on-topic than that sort of filth and fraudulent garbage. (Arguably the worst example of said filth and fraudulent garbage is changing the name of Lauren Weinstein's PFIR or People for Internet Responsibility to a misleading, fraudulent, and racist name, such that it makes it more difficult to fact-check the original postings.)
Ahh yes, truly shocking garbage - it's hard to imagine someone trolling such a truly liberal, free speech loving, democracy proclaiming paragon of virtue like Lauren Weinstein with snarky little "FTFY"s! We should probably legislate mandatory (paid) ANTIFA memberships for all and public lynchings for all those who DARE oppose The Ministry! Right on Sean, right on‼! Make fascism great again brah :D
On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 11:07:57PM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and outright pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and dishonest spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$.
Recollect that Obama's 2008 position is now officially homophobic, and his 2011 position is now officially racist and unconstitutional. Therefore, by 2024, your 2018 position will be flagrant racist, white supremacist, anti semitic, homophobic, etc. And by that time they will probably be sending racist white supremacists like yourself to the gulag or the guillotine.
On Jan 2, 2018 02:08, "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote: On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and since when has cpunks become a sexual diary?
Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and outright pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and dishonest spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$. Shawn, I thank you sincerely, but please let this topic die forever. Ben did probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or purposely ignored them. He criticized only my answers and, well, his aggressive public reaction was a really precious lesson to me. **I swear I will never try to help another unknown and foreign runaway hacker, depressed enough for considering killing himself, sincerely offering my home and my personal contacts to give him some support.** He could simply give me a sincere heads up in private about my messages, honestly criticizing them and their content, when, only some weeks ago, contacted me in private asking about me. I was so, really so happy for knowing his personal storm was apparently finished and he was doing good... I was very stupid. Well, not my problem anymore. He knows very well how much I do hate false and hypocrite persons and I will never trust him again. Really sorry for wasting my time last year, reading his "pathetic" private messages asking for help and answering to them when he was feeling deeply sad and lost. I hate the sensation of being humiliated in public for someone that I used to trust, someone who used to be my friend, but it is evidently **not** a problem for him, so he will not waste his time reading this message and giving it an answer. Anyway, he died for me yesterday and I think a supposed "badass hacker" knows very well how to create messages filters. Wish you all a lovely day. I will lurk for some time because it will certainly be much healthier for me. ** I am feeling really sick about hypocrite disgusting people who think it's OK to post White Supremacist and Nazi content, but it's really shocking to mention sex. It's f_cking creepy and unfair because James' messages mentioning **MY** supposed sexual life can be freely posted, but if I mention **HIS** sexual life, I am annoying the CP list and destroying it. Aff, deeply ridiculous situation...** D'oooh, too much stupid contradictions and drama for nothing... ;P Take care, dear all. Or not, your choice only. c.
I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I actually specify it precisely). I did read __some__ of Jame's messages and I think it's also damn pathetic too. I am not taking any sides here, I just think you are both wrong about personally attacking each other (or it seems like so at least) on a public email list on hacker culture. Wether you take it as a humiliation or not, that's up to you. You should take it as an advice that even if someone lowers their level, you should not do the same and perhaps sometimes is better to give a time before replying. Do whatever is healthier for you. On 2 January 2018 at 11:49, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 2, 2018 02:08, "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote:
On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and since when has cpunks become a sexual diary?
Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and outright pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and dishonest spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$.
Shawn,
I thank you sincerely, but please let this topic die forever. Ben did probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or purposely ignored them. He criticized only my answers and, well, his aggressive public reaction was a really precious lesson to me.
**I swear I will never try to help another unknown and foreign runaway hacker, depressed enough for considering killing himself, sincerely offering my home and my personal contacts to give him some support.**
He could simply give me a sincere heads up in private about my messages, honestly criticizing them and their content, when, only some weeks ago, contacted me in private asking about me. I was so, really so happy for knowing his personal storm was apparently finished and he was doing good... I was very stupid.
Well, not my problem anymore. He knows very well how much I do hate false and hypocrite persons and I will never trust him again. Really sorry for wasting my time last year, reading his "pathetic" private messages asking for help and answering to them when he was feeling deeply sad and lost.
I hate the sensation of being humiliated in public for someone that I used to trust, someone who used to be my friend, but it is evidently **not** a problem for him, so he will not waste his time reading this message and giving it an answer. Anyway, he died for me yesterday and I think a supposed "badass hacker" knows very well how to create messages filters.
Wish you all a lovely day. I will lurk for some time because it will certainly be much healthier for me.
** I am feeling really sick about hypocrite disgusting people who think it's OK to post White Supremacist and Nazi content, but it's really shocking to mention sex. It's f_cking creepy and unfair because James' messages mentioning **MY** supposed sexual life can be freely posted, but if I mention **HIS** sexual life, I am annoying the CP list and destroying it. Aff, deeply ridiculous situation...**
D'oooh, too much stupid contradictions and drama for nothing... ;P
Take care, dear all. Or not, your choice only.
c.
On January 2, 2018 6:07:37 AM EST, Ben Mezger <su@seds.nl> wrote:
I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I actually specify it precisely).
I did read __some__ of Jame's messages and I think it's also damn pathetic too. I am not taking any sides here, I just think you are both wrong
James is way way more wrong, by virtue of being total scum. Ack, I just wasted more list bandwidth discussing this shiT stain... wtf is wrong with me !?
about personally attacking each other (or it seems like so at least) on a public email list on hacker culture. Wether you take it as a humiliation or not, that's up to you. You should take it as an advice that even if someone lowers their level, you should not do the same and perhaps sometimes is better to give a time before replying.
Do whatever is healthier for you.
On 2 January 2018 at 11:49, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 2, 2018 02:08, "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote:
On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and since when has cpunks become a sexual diary?
Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and outright pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and dishonest spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$.
Shawn,
I thank you sincerely, but please let this topic die forever. Ben did probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or purposely ignored them. He criticized only my answers and, well, his aggressive public reaction was a really precious lesson to me.
**I swear I will never try to help another unknown and foreign runaway hacker, depressed enough for considering killing himself, sincerely offering my home and my personal contacts to give him some support.**
He could simply give me a sincere heads up in private about my messages, honestly criticizing them and their content, when, only some weeks ago, contacted me in private asking about me. I was so, really so happy for knowing his personal storm was apparently finished and he was doing good... I was very stupid.
Well, not my problem anymore. He knows very well how much I do hate false and hypocrite persons and I will never trust him again. Really sorry for wasting my time last year, reading his "pathetic" private messages asking for help and answering to them when he was feeling deeply sad and lost.
I hate the sensation of being humiliated in public for someone that I used to trust, someone who used to be my friend, but it is evidently **not** a problem for him, so he will not waste his time reading this message and giving it an answer. Anyway, he died for me yesterday and I think a supposed "badass hacker" knows very well how to create messages filters.
Wish you all a lovely day. I will lurk for some time because it will certainly be much healthier for me.
** I am feeling really sick about hypocrite disgusting people who think it's OK to post White Supremacist and Nazi content, but it's really shocking to mention sex. It's f_cking creepy and unfair because James' messages mentioning **MY** supposed sexual life can be freely posted, but if I mention **HIS** sexual life, I am annoying the CP list and destroying it. Aff, deeply ridiculous situation...**
D'oooh, too much stupid contradictions and drama for nothing... ;P
Take care, dear all. Or not, your choice only.
c.
remember when this vigor and voice wrapped around digital stories with a light on digital freedom..the latest how to's and how where's which is what was so endearing and attractive. Smile Ilsa Bartlett Institute for Rewiring the System http://ilsabartlett.wordpress.com http://www.google.com/profiles/ilsa.bartlett www.hotlux.com/angel <http://www.hotlux.com/angel.htm> "Don't ever get so big or important that you can not hear and listen to every other person." -John Coltrane On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:53 PM, John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
On January 2, 2018 6:07:37 AM EST, Ben Mezger <su@seds.nl> wrote:
I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I actually specify it precisely).
I did read __some__ of Jame's messages and I think it's also damn pathetic too. I am not taking any sides here, I just think you are both wrong
James is way way more wrong, by virtue of being total scum.
Ack, I just wasted more list bandwidth discussing this shiT stain... wtf is wrong with me !?
about personally attacking each other (or it seems like so at least) on a public email list on hacker culture. Wether you take it as a humiliation or not, that's up to you. You should take it as an advice that even if someone lowers their level, you should not do the same and perhaps sometimes is better to give a time before replying.
Do whatever is healthier for you.
On 2 January 2018 at 11:49, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 2, 2018 02:08, "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote:
On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and since when has cpunks become a sexual diary?
Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and outright pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and dishonest spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$.
Shawn,
I thank you sincerely, but please let this topic die forever. Ben did probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or purposely ignored them. He criticized only my answers and, well, his aggressive public reaction was a really precious lesson to me.
**I swear I will never try to help another unknown and foreign runaway hacker, depressed enough for considering killing himself, sincerely offering my home and my personal contacts to give him some support.**
He could simply give me a sincere heads up in private about my messages, honestly criticizing them and their content, when, only some weeks ago, contacted me in private asking about me. I was so, really so happy for knowing his personal storm was apparently finished and he was doing good... I was very stupid.
Well, not my problem anymore. He knows very well how much I do hate false and hypocrite persons and I will never trust him again. Really sorry for wasting my time last year, reading his "pathetic" private messages asking for help and answering to them when he was feeling deeply sad and lost.
I hate the sensation of being humiliated in public for someone that I used to trust, someone who used to be my friend, but it is evidently **not** a problem for him, so he will not waste his time reading this message and giving it an answer. Anyway, he died for me yesterday and I think a supposed "badass hacker" knows very well how to create messages filters.
Wish you all a lovely day. I will lurk for some time because it will certainly be much healthier for me.
** I am feeling really sick about hypocrite disgusting people who think it's OK to post White Supremacist and Nazi content, but it's really shocking to mention sex. It's f_cking creepy and unfair because James' messages mentioning **MY** supposed sexual life can be freely posted, but if I mention **HIS** sexual life, I am annoying the CP list and destroying it. Aff, deeply ridiculous situation...**
D'oooh, too much stupid contradictions and drama for nothing... ;P
Take care, dear all. Or not, your choice only.
c.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 01/02/2018 08:53 PM, John Newman wrote:
On January 2, 2018 6:07:37 AM EST, Ben Mezger <su@seds.nl> wrote:
I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I actually specify it precisely).
I did read __some__ of Jame's messages and I think it's also damn pathetic too. I am not taking any sides here, I just think you are both wrong
James is way way more wrong, by virtue of being total scum.
Ack, I just wasted more list bandwidth discussing this shiT stain... wtf is wrong with me !?
about personally attacking each other (or it seems like so at least) on a public email list on hacker culture. Wether you take it as a humiliation or not, that's up to you. You should take it as an advice that even if someone lowers their level, you should not do the same and perhaps sometimes is better to give a time before replying.
Do whatever is healthier for you.
On 2 January 2018 at 11:49, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 2, 2018 02:08, "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote:
On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and since when has cpunks become a sexual diary?
Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and outright pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and dishonest spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$.
Shawn,
I thank you sincerely, but please let this topic die forever. Ben did probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or purposely ignored them. He criticized only my answers and, well, his aggressive public reaction was a really precious lesson to me.
**I swear I will never try to help another unknown and foreign runaway hacker, depressed enough for considering killing himself, sincerely offering my home and my personal contacts to give him some support.**
He could simply give me a sincere heads up in private about my messages, honestly criticizing them and their content, when, only some weeks ago, contacted me in private asking about me. I was so, really so happy for knowing his personal storm was apparently finished and he was doing good... I was very stupid.
Well, not my problem anymore. He knows very well how much I do hate false and hypocrite persons and I will never trust him again. Really sorry for wasting my time last year, reading his "pathetic" private messages asking for help and answering to them when he was feeling deeply sad and lost.
I hate the sensation of being humiliated in public for someone that I used to trust, someone who used to be my friend, but it is evidently **not** a problem for him, so he will not waste his time reading this message and giving it an answer. Anyway, he died for me yesterday and I think a supposed "badass hacker" knows very well how to create messages filters.
Wish you all a lovely day. I will lurk for some time because it will certainly be much healthier for me.
** I am feeling really sick about hypocrite disgusting people who think it's OK to post White Supremacist and Nazi content, but it's really shocking to mention sex. It's f_cking creepy and unfair because James' messages mentioning **MY** supposed sexual life can be freely posted, but if I mention **HIS** sexual life, I am annoying the CP list and destroying it. Aff, deeply ridiculous situation...**
D'oooh, too much stupid contradictions and drama for nothing... ;P
Take care, dear all. Or not, your choice only.
c.
I stand with Ceci. I'll take her light hearted fun stuff over the far right babblings that have pushed decent discussion off this list for the most part. How did we get to this point ? - --- Marina -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCAAdFiEEo8txa89xQ0v6g7ID+f9jkVc9tEIFAlpMeLQACgkQ+f9jkVc9 tEJihgwAgIk/6rQx68vszN9aAtjyPAfeb9vMM2Rglgg0G6AtwYncKw3cmZ32kRau zARIf6p0fdIU4LPvN7pAuXwQtiJ/IfwGHdWpKfa+sNMrNsVrT26bTQIDDg2szTYs tjPchmB+b57+a8ULEmtclffCLMvKTnr7oQsDG61f21RjuAVFTNdr2jkBzFiqFSCF 8NIbDkNx7i6vlSawjdxLuAPAeYmPexalpKq8rupgxnlKsiMcVKodsWsLvXPBPfZl gVJc9K25C2Nktuufc+DLgW7Mo5XdtQVj7Gi5Ygh1+Ew9OAuGiVEw6p5tIlVZ6peQ vGoVlUcE7G8xWS2IOEs1vqxIh6SCjSY1/JcxyMqwL8JEhQ7aitUQfIuP8/4QOOlR 82EUCd2yClZTbuvKqbuUuZDdR+YVMDbibEZ1xpoA51wLaUQmP+/4IH5GFpUV5jgJ Fr1wXs54Su/bFDCBNHYdziJcoVcmmHc26p7uWA0dNYZdLHfdi1fQrMf6m+NwvKQj +alCT5Ni =17TT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Marina Brown wrote:
I stand with Ceci.
I'll take her light hearted fun stuff over the far right babblings that have pushed decent discussion off this list for the most part. How did we get to this point ? --- Marina AnarchoCap/So-called "libertarian" infestation. They attract fascists and nazis because they share an underlying ideology, despite their bleatings to the contrary. Rr
On 01/03/2018 01:35 PM, g2s wrote:
AnarchoCap/So-called "libertarian" infestation. They attract fascists and nazis because they share an underlying ideology, despite their bleatings to the contrary.
...and those of us who actually stand up for decency and order get labeled as the nazis and fascists. Can you say "projection?" -- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com> http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 14:02:20 -0600 "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote:
On 01/03/2018 01:35 PM, g2s wrote:
AnarchoCap/So-called "libertarian" infestation. They attract fascists and nazis because they share an underlying ideology, despite their bleatings to the contrary.
...and those of us who actually stand up for decency and order get labeled as the nazis and fascists. Can you say "projection?"
it's just a matter of looking up what a guy like 'marina', rayzer and shill quinn have posted. Unsurprisingly the three of them are not only americunt statists, but tor-bots. but have they ever made a cypherpunk/libertarian point? Never. " stand up for decency and order" also, asshole quinn constantly uses that sort of fascist language. A couple of times I thought he was being sarcastic, but then I had to conclude the motherfucking asshole is being serious, and being his own cosmic, involuntary, self-parody. "AMERCICUNT LAW AND ORDER" - that's what this list needs.
"Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: On 01/03/2018 01:35 PM, g2s wrote:
AnarchoCap/So-called "libertarian" infestation. They attract fascists and nazis because they share an underlying ideology, despite their bleatings to the contrary.
...and those of us who actually stand up for decency and order get labeled as the nazis and fascists. Can you say "projection?" -- Shawn K. Quinn Decency and order in Capitalist societies are relative and oppress someone somewhere. That's a defining trait. Someone's on top. Someone's on the bottom getting screwed. There is no option to that in capitalist economics. The people on top who control the repression apparatus are fascist, and the people who otherwise prosper are, to use a well worn phrase, Good Germans. I had a similar convo on twitter the other day. Here's what I wrote: "There is no such thing as anarchocapitalism or for that matter capitalism-based socialism. The former is libertarianism... narcissistic capitalism, the latter Fascism, or if you would, National Socialism." Currently I'm in TwitterJail for responding to this ViceCanada article... https://twitter.com/vicecanada/status/948635075272359936 ...about the "Skate Girls of Kabul" with: "Too bad they dont have clean running water. Fuck YOU for glossing over the #Genocide America caused in #Afghanistan... #Scumbags. Ps We're sending thousands of troops to Afghanistan in '18 to make SURE Iraqis stay addicted en masse to Heroin." https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/948641912310841344 Capitalism. Someone gets screwed and the Good Germans are happy believing in myths and lies. Rr, cutting the crap, with a machete
"Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: ...and those of us who actually stand up for decency and order get labeled as the nazis and fascists. Can you say "projection?"
On 1/4/2018 6:25 AM, g2s wrote:
Decency and order in Capitalist societies are relative and oppress someone somewhere.
And where is your wonderful anti capitalist society that did not murder a large proportion of the population, including a very large proportion of the leftists that imposed it? Leftists hate everyone, and they hate those closer to themselves more than they hate those further from themselves. They hate their friends, they hate their kin, they hate their family, they hate their children, and most of all, they hate themselves. See, for example "10:10 No Pressure". They reject Christian particularism, that God commanded you look after family first, then neighbors, that at Babel, the semi mythical first city, first Kingdom, and first empire, located in the area that archaeology tells us first practiced farming, (which is logically where one would expect the first Kingdom and first empire to first appear, irrespective of whether it was actually called Babel and actually founded by Nimrod) God ordained the existence of tribes and nationalities. And if God did not ordain them, Darwin tells us that Gnon did. And chances are that the will of Gnon was demonstrated where farming started, when someone first tried empire. Irrespective of whether Babel actually existed or what happened there, farming would have led to the first city, the first city likely became the first Kingdom, the first Kingdom likely became the first empire, and then the proverbial would have hit the fan. And then, being holier than thou, leftists demonstrate that holiness by rejecting those closest to themselves even more, like the worshippers of Moloch, who demonstrated their loyalty to the state faith by casting their children into the fire. For leftists, abortion is a sacrament. The logic of leftism starts with "invade the world, invite the world", proceeds to the murder of taxpayers and property owners, as in Detroit and Ferguson, then proceeds to white genocide, and then proceeds to autogenocide. The final stage of leftism is always the red terror, when leftists devour each other for insufficient holiness.
On 1/2/2018 8:49 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Ben did probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or purposely ignored them
Pretty sure he did read my messages, which only personally attacked you by calling your personal attacks on me "projection". "Social Justice Warriors always project." You asserted that I was alone and unloved, something that people of my sex and my political leanings seldom experience, and people of your sex and your political leanings regularly experience, in part because our ideology tells us that "love your neighbor" means your actual neighbor, not hostile angry people in Africa, and that our duty to close kin is greater than our duty to friends, and our duty to friends exceeds our duty to far away strangers. (1 Timothy 5:16) And those few of us males that suffer from it are seldom much troubled. Women need to be loved much more than men, and women, having a much shorter period of sexual attractiveness and fertility than men, frequently blow their one short chance. Men are troubled by not getting their dicks wet, by lack of sex, not by lack of love. But if they neglect to use a condom, likely to wind up getting stuck with being loved. For a man, love is in plentiful, indeed excessive, supply, particularly if he hates condoms, just as sex is in plentiful supply for women. If a man who feels he needs love, he has plenty of time in which to find it, whereas a woman has only a short time in which to find it, and is apt to waste her time partying, getting an education, and building a career during that terribly brief period when she should be building a family. Because of the social environment of social justice warriors, and because of the sexual misconduct valorized by social justice warriors, female social justice warriors regularly and routinely blow their one short chance by sleeping with men who do not call them back, and by cuckolding any man so foolish as to call them back, until they stop getting nine at night booty calls from Jeremy Meeks.
-------- Original Message -------- On Jan 1, 2018, 11:55 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: On Jan 1, 2018 01:26, wrote: > Blah, blah, blah... "Cock carousel", "bad boys", "Social Justice Warrior", "no friends"... Tsk, tsk... So sorry for you, James. Your senile dementia is evidently becoming pretty worse and, strangely, very "selective" about subjects related to your personal life. :) Why are you obviously avoiding to answer *which exactly is your church*, my darling? Fear of being rejected by all the other members? Or are you feeling ashamed for following a very stupid not recognized Christian church? Hihihi... ;) Well, I never was a "Social Justice Warrior" or claimed to be one of them. And I do really not understand why you think I don't have a social life, a family, and real good friends, people which deserve my most sincere love and care. Do you think I spend my free time searching for "allies"? Which kind of "alliance" and exactly for what, please? God, it makes no sense, aff... Did Gandalf invite me to a journey with hobbits, elves and dwarfs, and I wasn't informed about it yet? :P Seriously, James, I do also love German men, but your intense relationship with Dr. Alzheimer is becoming indecently explicit... :P If you are describing your own miserable life, please, do not project your loneliness and your social frustrations in me. I am not guilty if you had a "bad boy's cock carousel" and never received a call or a text in the day after. I swear it never was my case, darling. Hehe, Oriental charm, you know... Oh, no, you do *not* know, hahaha!!! ;D I am much better than you in several aspects, including the sexual one, obviously. I don't need Viagra or other drugs for being 'ready' and I don't need to sleep the whole night to get the 'second round', hahaha!!! ;D A few days ago, you wrote two very stupid messages showing your evident ignorance about feeding. You don't know anything about the difference between "vegetarian" and "vegan" diets and beliefs, even being f_cking easy to make a simple 5 minutes research and reading. So, I suggest you to read about "straight edge" people. You will spend only a few minutes and will learn a lot about me, poor old loser. Tell us which is your church, dear. Why are you being so shy? And why do you think you will never receive anonymous packs with dildos and anal beads in your so pure and sacred home, uh? :) Oh, and if you like talking to rejected, lonely, and needy bitches, you should consider to send your nasty messages to your friend Zenaan, not for me or to this list, James. :P You both should find more guys like you and making a hot "lemon party". Oh, it will be amazing if Trump accept your invitation, sweetie! You already said publicly that "he's very handsome, tall, and rich"! :D Well, it is what *you* search in a man, not me. I search for intelligence, character, and sense of humor. And Trump seems an old orange disgusting frog, but uglier and less intelligent and smart, eeeck!!! (>_ LMAO -
is it just me that does not take cecilia serious at any point? it's starting to annoy me those "bunny" emails. On 1 January 2018 at 21:53, rooty <arpspoof@protonmail.com> wrote:
-------- Original Message -------- On Jan 1, 2018, 11:55 AM, Cecilia Tanaka < cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote: On Jan 1, 2018 01:26, wrote: > Blah, blah, blah... "Cock carousel", "bad boys", "Social Justice Warrior", "no friends"... Tsk, tsk... So sorry for you, James. Your senile dementia is evidently becoming pretty worse and, strangely, very "selective" about subjects related to your personal life. :) Why are you obviously avoiding to answer *which exactly is your church*, my darling? Fear of being rejected by all the other members? Or are you feeling ashamed for following a very stupid not recognized Christian church? Hihihi... ;) Well, I never was a "Social Justice Warrior" or claimed to be one of them. And I do really not understand why you think I don't have a social life, a family, and real good friends, people which deserve my most sincere love and care. Do you think I spend my free time searching for "allies"? Which kind of "alliance" and exactly for what, please? God, it makes no sense, aff... Did Gandalf invite me to a journey with hobbits, elves and dwarfs, and I wasn't informed about it yet? :P Seriously, James, I do also love German men, but your intense relationship with Dr. Alzheimer is becoming indecently explicit... :P If you are describing your own miserable life, please, do not project your loneliness and your social frustrations in me. I am not guilty if you had a "bad boy's cock carousel" and never received a call or a text in the day after. I swear it never was my case, darling. Hehe, Oriental charm, you know... Oh, no, you do *not* know, hahaha!!! ;D I am much better than you in several aspects, including the sexual one, obviously. I don't need Viagra or other drugs for being 'ready' and I don't need to sleep the whole night to get the 'second round', hahaha!!! ;D A few days ago, you wrote two very stupid messages showing your evident ignorance about feeding. You don't know anything about the difference between "vegetarian" and "vegan" diets and beliefs, even being f_cking easy to make a simple 5 minutes research and reading. So, I suggest you to read about "straight edge" people. You will spend only a few minutes and will learn a lot about me, poor old loser. Tell us which is your church, dear. Why are you being so shy? And why do you think you will never receive anonymous packs with dildos and anal beads in your so pure and sacred home, uh? :) Oh, and if you like talking to rejected, lonely, and needy bitches, you should consider to send your nasty messages to your friend Zenaan, not for me or to this list, James. :P You both should find more guys like you and making a hot "lemon party". Oh, it will be amazing if Trump accept your invitation, sweetie! You already said publicly that "he's very handsome, tall, and rich"! :D Well, it is what *you* search in a man, not me. I search for intelligence, character, and sense of humor. And Trump seems an old orange disgusting frog, but uglier and less intelligent and smart, eeeck!!! (>_
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On 1/2/2018 5:55 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
"Cock carousel", "bad boys", "Social Justice Warrior", "no friends"... Tsk, tsk... So sorry for you, James. Your senile dementia is evidently becoming pretty worse and, strangely, No young chick ever had sex fantasies about being ravished by commie. Every young chick has sex fantasies about being ravished by a Nazi. Including those of your Social Justice Warrior friends who are still hot.
And if you have some lesbian friends, which I expect you do, ask them the sex of the last two people that were inside them. Gold star lesbians proudly boast that they never had a relationship with a man, not that they never had sex with a man. And there are not that many gold star lesbians. And then ask them if the man they had sex with voted for Trump.
very "selective" about subjects related to your personal life. :)
I don't talk much about my personal life, because I see you guys planning to murder Christians, whites, and males, and I don't want me, my children, my lovers, or my friends to be easily identified in case they get to be the first slice in the salami slicer. When you lot cannot find someone (and you will never find me even if you find some of my true names) you go after their kinfolk, their parents or their children if you can identify them. And that is why I am quiet about my personal life. My parents are dead, but I fear for my children.
Why are you obviously avoiding to answer *which exactly is your church*,
Tell us which is your church, dear. Why are you being so shy?
The reason that you want to know is so that antifa can break up the service and desecrate the church, Femen style, naked cute chick with chainsaw in the foreground for the Femen style photo op, while in the background large thugs beat old men, women and children to ensure that poster girl can wreck and desecrate stuff without being interrupted.
And why do you think you will never receive anonymous packs with dildos and anal beads in your so pure and sacred home, uh? :)
Because you cannot find my home, or my children's homes. And if you do find my home, which I am sure you will not, I am heavily armed for the eventuality that your allies show up. Oh, and about your allies. Recollect that the Khmer Rouge tortured the Khmer Rouge to death, that Pol Pot not only had no children, like you, but tortured to death everyone in Cambodia related to himself, and everyone he could find in Cambodia who had known him while he was young. Famously, the Khmer Rouge hated intellectuals, especially foreign educated intellectuals - but this was because the Khmer Rouge were foreign educated intellectuals. The left hates itself, and when it gets the power to destroy its enemies, it makes a start on destroying its enemies, and then destroys itself. The Nazis killed thousands of commies, but the commies killed tens of millions of commies. This has happened over and over again, and there is a good chance it will happen in the American empire before long.
On Jan 1, 2018 18:03, "Ben Mezger" <su@seds.nl> wrote: is it just me that does not take cecilia serious at any point? it's starting to annoy me those "bunny" emails. Ben, I really thought you were my friend or, at least, a lovely person that I always wanted to help while was lost and hurt. You did always have freedom enough and all the possible ways to say this kind of thing in private. You preferred to humiliate me on a public list. I can't trust you anymore. Please, never contact me in private again and forget my existence. Take care, bye! c.
First of all, I did not humiliate you on a public list. All I said is **probably** want everyone said (or wanted to say) once: you do annoy a lot sometimes with a bunch of out-of-context emails that **do** not make any fucking sense, such as your previous email talking about James sexual preferences or whatever the fuck (did not read the whole email, it was way to pathetic to waste time on it). If you willing to create a chaos and take **any** email personally, then fine, go for it, or, you can just grew the fuck up, think before you write/reply an email (specially a public list one). On 1 January 2018 at 22:21, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 1, 2018 18:03, "Ben Mezger" <su@seds.nl> wrote:
is it just me that does not take cecilia serious at any point? it's starting to annoy me those "bunny" emails.
Ben, I really thought you were my friend or, at least, a lovely person that I always wanted to help while was lost and hurt.
You did always have freedom enough and all the possible ways to say this kind of thing in private. You preferred to humiliate me on a public list. I can't trust you anymore. Please, never contact me in private again and forget my existence.
Take care, bye!
c.
On 1/2/2018 7:20 AM, jamesd@echeque.com wrote:
Famously, the Khmer Rouge hated intellectuals, especially foreign educated intellectuals - but this was because the Khmer Rouge were foreign educated intellectuals. The left hates itself, and when it gets the power to destroy its enemies, it makes a start on destroying its enemies, and then destroys itself. The Nazis killed thousands of commies, but the commies killed tens of millions of commies. This has happened over and over again, and there is a good chance it will happen in the American empire before long.
Is there one leftist dictatorship that murdered fewer leftists than Pinochet executed leftists? If Allende had successfully seized power, he would have been immediately overthrown by elements of his coalition even more radical than himself, as the Kadets were immediately overthrown by Kerensky, and Kerensky immediately overthrown by Lenin, and at least ten times as many leftists would have died. Similarly, if Mueller succeeds in giving Trump the perp walk without Trump's bodyguards giving him a helicopter ride, shortly thereafter Brown Berniedette is going to give Mueller the perp walk, and not long thereafter, execute Trump, execute every member of Trump's family, and execute Mueller. And not long after that ...
naked cute chick with chainsaw in the foreground for the Femen style photo op
Anyone who knows anything about chainsaw will immediately recognize this "photo" as being a total shop. Also, teaching naked cute chicks proper chainsaw can come with benefits now and then, even if only as army of icy hot zombie slayers protecting sensei ;)
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