k: um we should probably keep the mcboss separate from any real bosses 1: no k: um we wouldn't want to anger powerful people 1: this is too horrific to let anybody support it k: uhhh maybe if umm 1: you're worried about working with their supporters. but we could just mind control them to take him down, y'know? k: isn't he described as like the expert of mind control? 1: uhhhh i didn't know that, is it true? 2: i think so. it seems that way from stories and things. 2: karl has an issue 2: the mcboss story is the only way he presently has to think about something rough he went through, and it is very slow, and engages k: i think of it as a community disruption, a weird urge to be disrespectful of others 3: it sounds like ... 4: anyway it sounds like we shouldn't be disrespectful of possible bosses, that it would make more sense to direct the disrespect urge elsewhere? k: i can barely move my body, i try most options out k: hum i guess i would rather be tortured outside of a hospital than trortured inside one. fresh air is really nice. 2: the goal is to reduce the torture. there must be a way to reduce this. k: what do i do about the big mcboss story 5: we still have laugh-at-tortured-to-stop as way to think tiny things that have real logic. k: maybe this is just more of that. maybe the mcstory is like an encrypted form of tiny attempts to think and form decisions, or therapy, or venting