Completely agree. Most of these "certifications" are one way for corporate overlords to drain more money, and usually just keep pumping out more and more script kiddies (if that). VR, Umair -------- Original Message -------- On Sep 13, 2017, 13:10, John Newman wrote:

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These "ethical hacker" degree programs are, IMO, basically a scam. I've screened ppl for interviews at work and basically learned to ignore anyone whose only significant qualification is one of these programs...

Amazing how they can get certified and not even know the diff between the passwd & shadow file, or su vs sudo, or the most BASIC shit...

On Sep 14, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:

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On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 01:10:58PM -0400, John Newman wrote: These "ethical hacker" degree programs are, IMO, basically a scam. I've screened ppl for interviews at work and basically learned to ignore anyone whose only significant qualification is one of these programs...

Amazing how they can get certified and not even know the diff between the passwd & shadow file, or su vs sudo, or the most BASIC shit...

It is highly profitable to be CISO (chief info security officer), read that salaries are 1M euro/year. Probably such positions require as many certificates as possible.

Yeah I'm sure a lot of CISOs have their CISSP. I doubt many bother with any of the shady "ethical hacker" crap, but I could be totally wrong. I don't see a whole lot of value in the CISSP either, personally. I do have my CCNA from like 15 years ago, and I'm also Sun E-10k certified, though I've never touched such a device in my life ;). It was a requirement that a certain number of employees get the cert at a previous job for them to maintain some reseller bullshit or something, I don't remember ... ;) Fucking classes are useless. If you want to study, get a EE or CS degree (or one of the newer mash ups that wasn't around when I went to college, like a BS in Computer Engineering). Obviously it's not a vocational thing like the ethical bullshit, but probably more valuable. IME best ppl are often total autodidacts.