Ok, I can't make anything if Razer prefers sex with little boys and to support Nambla. Sorry to everybody for this public soap opera. It's so bizarre that it becomes funny. I never will purr in laps of crazy hysterical guys like Razer again, I promise. So life goes on... :)

On 10/14/2016 07:57 AM, Mirimir wrote:

On 10/14/2016 07:34 AM, Razer wrote:

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Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?

Some people like 'em nuts.

I'm not interested.

Rr

You really are an asshole, Razer. Total slime. Scum of the earth.

I'm an asshole in real life too. Some people consider it an adorable quality. Others avoid me like the plague. Ask me if I REALLY give a fuck. I'm not some corporate psychopath bagging 'friends' for future 'favors granted' (as they say in the Mafia) Your troll friend just didn't seem to understand "Bug Off", so... Rr

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-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300 From: Cecilia Tanaka

I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do love you* before trying to sleep. Wish you lovely dreams and a restful sleep, my dear.

I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy. Completely crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a circumcised penis. Puuurrr... Meow! Would love to be in your lap now just to smell you... <3

Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis. It would very nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck. Nothing is more Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...

Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie. You are crazy, I am crazier... So life goes on, hihi... Fool! :)

On 10/14/2016 08:29 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

On Oct 14, 2016 12:08 PM, "Razer" mailto:rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:

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I'm not some ... psychopath <snip>

You are a hysterical, very noisy and dramatic psychopath, Razer.

You are very sick. Please, as I said before, search for psychiatric treatment with urgence.

We both are crazy, but I only hurt myself. You hurt other people. It's evil.

Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll? Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next stalking victims by posting that gibberish? Last reply on thread. Period. Rr

On Oct 14, 2016 1:08 PM, "Александр" wrote:

2016-10-14 18:52 GMT+03:00 Razer :

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Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?

Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next stalking victims by posting that gibberish?

Razer, i'm sure it's the second option. Mirmir is already deep inside her web... and now we see more and more

"Medieval Knights" who want to protect "woman's honor". The trouble is.. that there is NO woman here (in the true sense of the word) and, of course, there is NO honor/dignity. Just a heap of mud with the name "cici".

*෴*

Get a life, bitch. The discussion didn't arrive in Putin's asshole yet. Keep licking it and don't disturb the list, slut.

Whoops! Sorry, just read it now. On Oct 14, 2016 1:30 PM, "Razer" wrote:

Women are perfectly capable of defending their own honor.

Agreed. Razer is correct. I am completely able of defending my honor by myself. I didn't ask for any help or sympathy. Now, let's talking about cryptography and coding, please?

Make Cypherpunks Great Again. On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 03:50:01PM -0000, xorcist@sigaint.org wrote:

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Why the fuck did you forward this to the list?

John

There is indeed a certain ironic quality to a list like cypherpunks, which is supposed to be privacy-centric, to be used for public displays of private comms like this.

I'd like to submit much of this thread as evidence for my much-debated "chimpanzee hypothesis."

Or, Razer is - as he claims - 70-something years old, and possibly going senile.

It's all very hard to tell.

On 10/14/2016 09:34 AM, John Newman responded to a troll responding to a troll:

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 05:52:50PM +0200, aestetix wrote:

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Make Cypherpunks Great Again.

Lulz! I find it interesting that on John Gilmore's home page, under accomplishments, he says the following about the cypherpunks list:

"The Cypherpunks (with Eric Hughes and Tim May)

An informal group dedicated to public education and dissemination of encryption (also known as cryptography, the science and art of secret writing). I originally hosted the mailing list (cypherpunks@toad.com) and provided space for the first few years' worth of meetings. A descendant of the mailing list is still operating; subscribe to cryptography@metzdowd.com."

No mention of the current cypherpunks list :P

Taken from http://www.toad.com/gnu/

John

Whasamtter John don't like my posts about Geofeedia stalking black activists? It's a waste of time and bandwidth responding to trolls and the resultant flames. I'd MUCH RATHER be posting stuff like the above and discussing it, but I see a LOT of disruption being caused by what appear to be one or two posters using a number of different emails and fuck you if I can't point out the disruption. Or the psychological stalking by someone using what appears to be a stolen identity, of quite a few people resulting from involvement in the list. Rr

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:34:59 -0400 John Newman wrote:

An informal group dedicated to public education and dissemination of encryption (also known as cryptography, the science and art of secret writing). I originally hosted the mailing list (cypherpunks@toad.com) and provided space for the first few years' worth of meetings. A descendant of the mailing list is still operating; subscribe to cryptography@metzdowd.com."

No mention of the current cypherpunks list :P

Right. That tells you exactly what gilmore stands for. His EFF was already and correctly seen as corrupt and useless 20 years ago - check the archives of gilmore's original, 'own' cypherpunk mailing list. Also, the amount of effort needed to learn what kind of textbook example of unintentional self-pardoy the 'cryptography' mailing list is, is very low. Just spend ten minutes reading the pseudo technical garbage that gets posted to that fully censored cesspool =)

Taken from http://www.toad.com/gnu/

John

Fishing for an age... Wrong. Don't bother trying again.

Not two minutes before you sent the above quoted message, you posted a message saying your reply would be the last in thread. Obviously not. But whatever. Uhm -- No, not fishing at all. Maybe you are a senile 71-yro after all? Because your memory is obviously garbage. In our first interaction on this list you made a ridiculous claim that you were being profiled by the government. In your words, paraphrased, since before they were really using computers, when things were being done with paper and punch cards. As I pointed out in a private message to you, which you also then posted publicly here, punch cards were phased out in the 1960s. If you were a well-connected extremely rabid 20-year-old radical in 1965, to make the fed's watch-list at that tender age, today you would be 71 years old. I don't care how old you are. It's just an observation based on the stupid, paranoid, ridiculous shit that you constantly say. And I'll tell you WHY I don't care, in the slightest, about you or any personal details about you: You're an unimportant, clueless child, with a penchant for paranoia, and grandiose claims. You're rude, wear the term "asshole" like a badge of honor. This alone limits any effect, or importance you could possibly have to anyone, in any possible universe or social circle here on earth. You're nothing, and the few morsels of information or opinion that you offer that are worth anything, are really just pre-chewed pieces of fat gleaned from other sources. At best, you're the net equivalent of a talking head, dutifully reading off the page presented to you from somewhere else, trying to convince us that it has merit. You have never had an original thought in your short little life, and since you obviously feed your ego mostly through the goings-on here - the net equivalent of scrawling graffiti in a dis-used lavatory at a random highway rest stop, it is quite likely that you never will have such a thought. You have proudly written about how you avoid IT work, preferring other forms of labor out of some ideological duty -- which may be at least partly true, but it is just as likely, given the observations above, that you're just scared shitless to actually put your talents and mind to the test, because deep down, you wonder if you have what it takes. That's just my opinion, off the top of my head, from what I remember of your nonsense. It would be dizzingly pathetic, if it weren't so clockwork-regular like a fucking automaton.

On 10/14/2016 10:22 AM, xorcist@sigaint.org wrote:

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Fishing for an age... Wrong. Don't bother trying again.

Not two minutes before you sent the above quoted message, you posted a message saying your reply would be the last in thread. Obviously not.

But whatever. Uhm -- No, not fishing at all. Maybe you are a senile 71-yro after all? Because your memory is obviously garbage.

In our first interaction on this list you made a ridiculous claim that you were being profiled by the government. In your words, paraphrased, since before they were really using computers, when things were being done with paper and punch cards.

As I pointed out in a private message to you, which you also then posted publicly here, punch cards were phased out in the 1960s.

If you were a well-connected extremely rabid 20-year-old radical in 1965, to make the fed's watch-list at that tender age, today you would be 71 years old.

I don't care how old you are. It's just an observation based on the stupid, paranoid, ridiculous shit that you constantly say. And I'll tell you WHY I don't care, in the slightest, about you or any personal details about you:

You're an unimportant, clueless child, with a penchant for paranoia, and grandiose claims. You're rude, wear the term "asshole" like a badge of honor. This alone limits any effect, or importance you could possibly have to anyone, in any possible universe or social circle here on earth. You're nothing, and the few morsels of information or opinion that you offer that are worth anything, are really just pre-chewed pieces of fat gleaned from other sources. At best, you're the net equivalent of a talking head, dutifully reading off the page presented to you from somewhere else, trying to convince us that it has merit.

You have never had an original thought in your short little life, and since you obviously feed your ego mostly through the goings-on here - the net equivalent of scrawling graffiti in a dis-used lavatory at a random highway rest stop, it is quite likely that you never will have such a thought.

You have proudly written about how you avoid IT work, preferring other forms of labor out of some ideological duty -- which may be at least partly true, but it is just as likely, given the observations above, that you're just scared shitless to actually put your talents and mind to the test, because deep down, you wonder if you have what it takes.

That's just my opinion, off the top of my head, from what I remember of your nonsense.

It would be dizzingly pathetic, if it weren't so clockwork-regular like a fucking automaton.

That sound about right. Thanks, bro :)

On 10/14/2016 11:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:

On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 06:34 -0700, Razer wrote:

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Anyone wanna 'grab a digital #$%&#'?

Some people like 'em nuts.

I'm not interested.

No moderator worth his/her salt would ever have approved your posting. Something to think about.

Reposting email clearly intended to be private is often in poor taste, even if technically legal. Especially if it is explicit in nature, as this one was.

Well, except that this is a totally unmoderated list. Which is a good thing, I believe. So it's all on Razer.

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote:

Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the list to begin with,

Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick americunt propaganda, for instance.

such as the explicit garbage clearly never intended for public consumption which I was originally replying to?

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:02:04 -0500 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote:

On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 15:07 -0300, juan wrote:

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On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote:

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Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the list to begin with,

Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick #$%&#$%&# propaganda, for instance.

Moderation, not censorship. There is a huge difference.

'Moderation' is censorship. You should at least have the decency of not stabbing people in the back and be honest about your despicabla true intentions. Of course, trying to openly stab people is a lot riskier. It's not hard to see that you are a vocal advocate of censorship. So you can take off your fucking, transparent, mask. Oh, and you also get to rewrite my mesages? +) - I once thought your posts were sarcasm. It's obvious now that you are the god of unintentional self-parody.

On 10/14/2016 11:51 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:

On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 11:46 -0600, Mirimir wrote:

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On 10/14/2016 11:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:

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No moderator worth his/her salt would ever have approved your posting. Something to think about.

Reposting email clearly intended to be private is often in poor taste, even if technically legal. Especially if it is explicit in nature, as this one was.

Well, except that this is a totally unmoderated list. Which is a good thing, I believe. So it's all on Razer.

My points with that statement about a moderator were: 1. The original should never have been posted. 2. An unmoderated list means the participants themselves are supposed to moderate their postings, and because posts like the original are making it on to the list anyway, clearly this is failing.

Clearly.

Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the list to begin with, such as the explicit garbage clearly never intended for public consumption which I was originally replying to?

Those are my values.

On Oct 14, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Razer wrote:

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On 10/14/2016 10:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: Reposting email clearly intended to be private

Spam mail is intended to be private too. So I shouldn't pass that info on to a sysadmin or other person who might be spammed due to, let's say, hijacked address book?

IOW You ARE NOT MAKING A VALID POINT!

I did not request the emails, I did not originate the conversations at any point. I attempted to SEVERELY DISSUADE THE PERSON from sending them. Suicide threats from someone I don't know?

Fuck that. Go kill yourself. There are people trying desperately to live and dying for no good reason and I'm going to worry about unsolicited suicide notes from someone I don't even know?

Maybe I should feel sorry for that esquire from Nigeria who wants to deposit money in my bank account because he's being hounded by his government too?

Your idea of "Private" is perverse and dysfunctional. "She" ('her' recent spew before subsiding was very masculine in nature) has been sending this garbage to a few other UNWILLING RECIPIENTS whose emails

None of these other UNWILLING RECIPIENTS has seen fit to broadcast a private message over and over.

she only knows because this list is so fucking unsecured it passes your

So "unsecured" ? How do you suggest the list be "secured"? John

email on to... whomever. Spam email harvesters etc.

I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.

Hugs and kisses... I'd like to be in your lap right now...

Crap.

Rr

On 10/14/2016 12:00 PM, Mirimir wrote:

On 10/14/2016 12:13 PM, Razer wrote:

<SNIP>

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I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.

You've done what you've done. Others will act accordingly.

<SNIP>

Stupidly ambivalent. Explain how posting an UNWANTED AND UNSOLICITED EMAIL violates the right to privacy of someone whose contact wasn't requested or desired after they were repeatedly informed of that? I've received emails that say "Please don't repost this info" or "For your eyes only" or something to that effect from KNOWN contacts and I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE violated that trust. Someone sending me "I want to bury my face in your lap and smell your aroma or I'll commit suicide" (a conflation) emails despite my request they stop? Sorry asscrack. FAIR GAME. Rr