Sign the Letter to Secure the Internet
Sign the Letter to Secure the Internet https://securetheinternet.org/ Via Henry Baker, Cryptography List
You're kidding us right? I haven't even read the contents of the site as its sat behind Cloudflare :D What a great idea tho, how to validate your list of cranky privacy freaks for economic and political targetting - get them to go to a website via cloudlfare, collate identifying markers and crosscheck to other sites that go via Cloudflare and use it to profile and identify the real personas. Maybe I just need a stronger tinfoil hat but this seems like a piss-take to me. On 12/01/16 21:28, John Young wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:16:52 +0000 oshwm <oshwm@openmailbox.org> wrote:
https://securetheinternet.org/#signers So you missed the fact that cloudflare is one of the signers!! =)
There are indeed similarities of the crypto advocacy crowd with advocates of guns, which figures because both are classified as munitions and serve similar purposes. Gun control could be linked to crypto control, and some cpunks, in early days at least, emphasized the parallel. "My cold dead hands" was invoked for gun self-protection and passphrase for privacy protection. Other parallels can be seen between cryptographers and weapons manufacturers pursuing commercial, governmental and user markets with sales pitches tuned to each category. Dual use an essential feature, duplicity and dual hats too. Could be more coming in regulation of cryptographers like gun manufacturers and dealers. And best, the black market and underground and warfare tools merchants and of course informants and betrayers. Licensed crypto is already at hand througn chips, devices, algos, OSes and not a few deceptive insertions and implants emplaced while argument about the crypto war diverts attention. More crypto cops, overt and covert, sure, why not, that has been around for a while, almost surely from the beginning of crypto not to say cpunks and the cryptography lists. At 05:16 PM 1/12/2016, you wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 6:39 PM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
Early days? You must have missed the cpunks threads on this in the last year... search for NRA. The similarities between the two groups and their missions and environments are remarkable to the point they should consider partnering for towards mutual benefit.
oshwm wrote:
You're kidding us right? I haven't even read the contents of the site as its sat behind Cloudflare :D
I was going to check that. After all, the "Dear Putin" letter signing site that was created to ostensibly apologize to Vlad for all the terrible things the West says about him is hosted by cloudflare. I can hear echos of dunning voices from the hallowed halls of the House Un-American Activities Committee now. -- RR "You might want to ask an expert about that - I just fiddled around with mine until it worked...
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