Re: Up Front Discussion
Ehh I read "there may be a chance" prior to what you wrote, which I still see quoted below. I hear it as assuming low likelihood of what comes after. Just looking for collaboration, Zenaan. I github'd you and found IQNets with its empty codebase: do you guys need help taking that somewhere? Since iqnets replaces tor and has no code in it, it looks pretty legit, although I wouldn't expect that to make sense to anybody. I've calmed down and am remembering to take you out of the To: field this time. Sorry about that. I've struggled for years against many obstacles to move forward on reliable logging and was excited to see Jim's project. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 10:46 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Seems you misread what I wrote...
I wrote "this project could have a positive net effect" ...
Did you misread my words?
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 8:06 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:29:30PM -0400, Karl wrote:
Checking to see if anybody is interested in working on this, possibly with me, on the software side. I don't know you and am half crazy, but I still know some code.
grarpamp, Jim said the device has room for an SDR. A generalized secure network would also be a great thing.
I have not read most of this list, if that's not obvious. I read
code a lot better than english.
There may be a chance this project could have a positive net effect.
<cries>
Zenaan how can you assume in public like this that this project is horrible, without any discussion of its merits, on a thread about working on it with no other replies?
Have I hurt you? Does this project hurt you?
You collapse all our impact into one "net effect" and say it is bad! I have tried to kill myself repeatedly, Zenaan, and it just gets you locked in a hospital still alive, crying and wishing you could die! We need to try to do something with our efforts!
What projects are you working or dreaming of?
In terms of device, step PRIMARY, is to free you and your users from
clutches of google/apple etc. For example the Librem 5 may be a good
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:19:43AM -0400, Karl wrote: source the base
platform on which to add any daughter board you guys come up with...
At the very least, rooting your mainstream 'tard-phone is likely up on your list already, of course.
Good luck,
[Apologies for the top posting - I started doing that in this thread.] Some learn that going to a movie with really high expectations, results often in a disappointment, especially with the endless Jewish agenda to miscegenate, pornify, glorify violence, and de-white, all of white culture (which agenda as many know is well documented by many Jewish sources). Notwithstanding the political and cultural attacks we appear to be permanently under, the principle applies to keep grounded, don't get carried away, take a realistic view of the work involved etc - a slow and steady appoach and determination to get your project done - it's much better than a flash in the pan which dies out before you've barely begun. Karl, if a "cautiously positive" message is so upsetting to you, you might also struggle with the persistence of intention required to complete the work you set out to do. If you stay the course, there's every possibility you will bring it to fruition though, so I remain cautiously optimistic for the time being... IQNets is neither legit, nor illegit - it is simply a collection of thoughts and email threads from this list, as to how one might go about improving Tor - although hopefully there are sufficient ideas somewhere to actually improve Tor (it needs improvement). If 'iqnets' still lingers, I even hope to have time next year to have a crack at it myself... Listen I hope you don't stress about the CC thing - just remember that folks need only one copy of an email to be able to read it, and some of us prefer one copy (not two) of each email and don't have automatic de-duplication, that's all - no biggie. Many folks understand big mood swings, and most have experinced them at some stage in our life or another. How you handle the need to not go too wildly up and down on the rush those swings provide, is a matter for you - good luck achieving what your heart/Soul truly seeks in your life, and remember, if you get confronted, that might be a sign someone is trying to help you - may be to see something they think might be good for you to see. Good luck and God speed fellow Soul, On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:59:48AM -0400, Karl wrote:
Ehh I read "there may be a chance" prior to what you wrote, which I still see quoted below. I hear it as assuming low likelihood of what comes after.
Just looking for collaboration, Zenaan. I github'd you and found IQNets with its empty codebase: do you guys need help taking that somewhere?
Since iqnets replaces tor and has no code in it, it looks pretty legit, although I wouldn't expect that to make sense to anybody.
I've calmed down and am remembering to take you out of the To: field this time. Sorry about that.
I've struggled for years against many obstacles to move forward on reliable logging and was excited to see Jim's project.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 10:46 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Seems you misread what I wrote...
I wrote "this project could have a positive net effect" ...
Did you misread my words?
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 8:06 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:29:30PM -0400, Karl wrote:
Checking to see if anybody is interested in working on this, possibly with me, on the software side. I don't know you and am half crazy, but I still know some code.
grarpamp, Jim said the device has room for an SDR. A generalized secure network would also be a great thing.
I have not read most of this list, if that's not obvious. I read
code a lot better than english.
There may be a chance this project could have a positive net effect.
<cries>
Zenaan how can you assume in public like this that this project is horrible, without any discussion of its merits, on a thread about working on it with no other replies?
Have I hurt you? Does this project hurt you?
You collapse all our impact into one "net effect" and say it is bad! I have tried to kill myself repeatedly, Zenaan, and it just gets you locked in a hospital still alive, crying and wishing you could die! We need to try to do something with our efforts!
What projects are you working or dreaming of?
In terms of device, step PRIMARY, is to free you and your users from
clutches of google/apple etc. For example the Librem 5 may be a good
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:19:43AM -0400, Karl wrote: source the base
platform on which to add any daughter board you guys come up with...
At the very least, rooting your mainstream 'tard-phone is likely up on your list already, of course.
Good luck,
Hi Zenaan, thanks so much for your communication. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 8:36 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
[Apologies for the top posting - I started doing that in this thread.]
I infer there is a norm against that on this list like on most. My phone with internet makes bottom-posting hard right now. Some learn that going to a movie with really high expectations, results
often in a disappointment, especially with the endless Jewish agenda to miscegenate, pornify, glorify violence, and de-white, all of white culture (which agenda as many know is well documented by many Jewish sources).
I wasn't aware of the Jewish thing and would be interested in seeing this documentation. I reread what I wrote and added this: Most movies are disappointing, and some are blockbusters. Anybody can make a fan sequel to a blockbuster and become a youtube star. If the sequel is crucial, it gets used by everyone, even if it is only a few minutes long. I guess I repeat that a lot below. It's hard to speak in analogy. Notwithstanding the political and cultural attacks we appear to be
permanently under, the principle
I think things are hoping to be temporary. Might be important to relate around permanent, since that is my fear too. applies to keep grounded, don't get carried away, take a realistic view of
the work involved etc - a slow and steady appoach and determination to get your project done - it's much better than a flash in the pan which dies out before you've barely begun.
This sounds wonderful, and would work well in a group. I'm thinking around any hacker can make a good tool, but they won't reach the oppressed unless it is eventually normalized. Jim and I are likely already surveiled, so things we talk about that stay small and isolated could get censored for people who need them. Karl, if a "cautiously positive" message is so upsetting to you, you might
also struggle with the persistence of intention required to complete the work you set out to do.
I don't think we are hearing each other here. The work happening isn't about my feelings. I struggle for reasons other than having feelings, but I can still contribute a little code to projects. It was possibly unfair for me to release my stress from responding to other discouraging messages, on your message attempting support. I hear your comfort. I still worry for the project. Big public projects have many people in them. I am asking to find others who are or want to be those people, too. This makes better persistance. If you stay the course, there's every possibility you will bring it to fruition though, so I remain
cautiously optimistic for the time being...
Jim's running it now. Forget cautious optimism: if you like an idea or hope for something, get involved, connect people together, and make it happen faster! Or it will happen on its own and you may never learn about it while assuming it might not (points to blockchained tianmen tank video and active git archive of ongoing police brutality evidence posted earlier). What are you trying to communicate? IQNets is neither legit, nor illegit - A lot of resources, like Tor itself, have strong assumptions of not addressing major public concerns. Of course they are all legit, but struggling. They provide known avenues for compromise without being aware of it. It can be hard to make code that works, or even collect public information together, without stumbling into a situation that results in that. it is simply a collection of thoughts and email threads from this list, as
to how one might go about improving Tor - although hopefully there are sufficient ideas somewhere to actually improve Tor (it needs improvement). If 'iqnets' still lingers, I even hope to have time next year to have a crack at it myself...
Sounds like we need to link that idea list with active Tor forks for community implementation, or start one. Do you need help doing that? Kinda realizing that if you think the idea is silly, disregardable, or nonurgent, which I receive a lot, that might be a strong "yes I do need that, many of these software issues have gone unaddressed for years and are affecting people in serious real danger and i may have been manipulated to stop this from working somehow, which I do not want at all" expression which would be right in context but really not very clear. Maybe a fork is linked with them somewhere already and I should know that? Thank you for messaging with me. It is hard to communicate. Listen I hope you don't stress about the CC thing - just remember that
folks need only one copy of an email to be able to read it, and some of us prefer one copy (not two) of each email and don't have automatic de-duplication, that's all - no biggie.
Sounds like errors are okay if I remember the norm. Among groups of the severely politically targeted, we have found that sending the same message a whole mess of times, even when the mailperson's job is to delete it, can eventually get it through. How does it land to hear this? Many folks understand big mood swings, and most have experinced them at
some stage in our life or another. How you handle the need to not go too wildly up and down on the rush those swings provide, is a matter for you - good luck achieving what your heart/Soul truly seeks in your life, and remember, if you get confronted, that might be a sign someone is trying to help you - may be to see something they think might be good for you to see.
Sorry if I have upset or worried you too much, and thank you for your tolerance. I worry more about the distracting spam than the tears. Good luck and God speed fellow Soul,
And to you, Honorable Hero.
Ehh I read "there may be a chance" prior to what you wrote, which I still see quoted below. I hear it as assuming low likelihood of what comes after.
Just looking for collaboration, Zenaan. I github'd you and found IQNets with its empty codebase: do you guys need help taking that somewhere?
Since iqnets replaces tor and has no code in it, it looks pretty legit, although I wouldn't expect that to make sense to anybody.
I've calmed down and am remembering to take you out of the To: field this time. Sorry about that.
I've struggled for years against many obstacles to move forward on reliable logging and was excited to see Jim's project.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 10:46 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Seems you misread what I wrote...
I wrote "this project could have a positive net effect" ...
Did you misread my words?
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:19:43AM -0400, Karl wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 8:06 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:29:30PM -0400, Karl wrote:
Checking to see if anybody is interested in working on this,
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:59:48AM -0400, Karl wrote: possibly
me, on the software side. I don't know you and am half crazy, but I still know some code.
grarpamp, Jim said the device has room for an SDR. A generalized secure network would also be a great thing.
I have not read most of this list, if that's not obvious. I read
with source
code a lot better than english.
There may be a chance this project could have a positive net effect.
<cries>
Zenaan how can you assume in public like this that this project is horrible, without any discussion of its merits, on a thread about working on it with no other replies?
Have I hurt you? Does this project hurt you?
You collapse all our impact into one "net effect" and say it is bad! I have tried to kill myself repeatedly, Zenaan, and it just gets you locked in a hospital still alive, crying and wishing you could die! We need to try to do something with our efforts!
What projects are you working or dreaming of?
In terms of device, step PRIMARY, is to free you and your users from the clutches of google/apple etc. For example the Librem 5 may be a good base platform on which to add any daughter board you guys come up with...
At the very least, rooting your mainstream 'tard-phone is likely up on your list already, of course.
Good luck,
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 07:34:51AM -0400, Karl wrote:
Hi Zenaan, thanks so much for your communication.
Some learn that going to a movie with really high expectations, results
often in a disappointment, especially with the endless Jewish agenda to miscegenate, pornify, glorify violence, and de-white, all of white culture (which agenda as many know is well documented by many Jewish sources).
I wasn't aware of the Jewish thing and would be interested in seeing this documentation.
Now firstly, free speech is the right to communicate - so is there anything inherently wrong with communication of a prurient nature? Liberals say no, there are only personal choices, and the consequences thereof, and we ought uphold the individual's right to make all personal choices (and to suffer, or be responsible for) all the consequences - and so if you find yourself addicted to porn, or anything else for that matter, what you choose to do about that, ought be a matter for you, and you alone. Put another way, "what right do I have, over you personally, to 'control' what you personally choose to view, consume, read, say, or otherwise do with your body and your life?" When looked at objectively, for one man (I use the word in it's generic meaning) to exercise control over another in such a way, is simply despotic; and by perfect analogy, to allow such power into the hands of any government, is, similarly, despotic. So hopefully we proceed in the conversation on a sane foundation - with wisdom lying in the balance of the choices that each individual makes for himself. And the interesting fact here is that the porn industry is a very Jewish affair, since the inception of its modern incarnation at least. Check out the following if you want to find out a little more about this particular rabbit hole - books and references included :) All you need to know about the Jewish Porn Industry but were afraid to ask! https://davidduke.com/everything-you-want-to-know-about-the-jewish-porn-indu... http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/dduke/120616.mp3 .. not only is the porn industry dominated by Jews, but many genres of porn, such as inter-racial porn, are not profitable but are pushed anyway. .. Watch the David Duke Video on this subject: Freud and The Jewish Sexual Revolution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuXIozVW5e4 Jewish Prof Says Porn is “Atavistic Hatred” Toward Gentiles https://davidduke.com/jewish-professor-boasts-of-jewish-pornography-used-as-... Jewish Professor Boasts of Jewish Porn as a Weapon Against Gentiles .. The first is one of the leading Jewish newspapers in Israel, Haaretz. The article is written by a Jewish writer Josh Lambert who wrote a book that boasts of the Jewish role in pornography in the Western World. ... The Jewish Role in the Porn Industry — An New Video from Mark Collett https://davidduke.com/the-jewish-role-in-the-porn-industry/ Mark Collett: .. Whilst in the West we are seeing an increasing amount of sexualised material pushed upon society, in Israel family values take centre stage and by law internet pornography is blocked by internet service providers. ... Porn Addiction — A Devastating Jewish Globalist Media Influence and How to Defeat It! https://davidduke.com/the-great-porn-experiment-one-more-devastating-jewish-... Commentary By Dr. David Duke The following is an absolutely vital, and I mean truly vital video — especially for the male readers of www.DavidDuke.com, across Europe and around the world. There is now overwhelming scientific evidence that Internet porn addiction is an epidemic, especially among men. It is an epidemic with many devastating effects upon men both young and old throughout the world. Not only has pornography been overwhelmingly dominated by Jews, as the article by Jewish professor Nathan Abrams shows, (you can find his article from the Jewish Intellectual Quarterly on this site) the Jewish porn kings are motivated not just by money but by racial hatred against Europeans. They see pornography as a weapon of revenge for real or imagined European wrongs against Jews from the time of Romans to the modern day. .. The following is a lecture to the famous TED speaking forum by Psychology Teacher Gary Wilson. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU If you want another eye opener, check out The Secret Behind Communism : The Secret Behind Communism https://daviddukeonline.com/product/the-secret-behind-communism/ By Dr. David Duke, incorporating the writings of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Frank Britton and others. This is the single most important work on the ethnic origins of the Russian Revolution and the greatest Holocaust in the history of mankind: Soviet Communism and its tentacles which spread out all over the world. It is estimated that more than 30 million—and perhaps untold millions more—died in the Holocaust which Communism created. From the millions who suffered in the Gulags through to the Ukrainian Holodomor—which is still the single greatest genocide in all history—the blood-stained hands of Communism and its creators brought untold misery and deprivation to nearly half the world’s population. This book rips aside the curtain which has been placed to cover up the single, dedicated, fanatic and murderous ethnic group which founded and controlled this “worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization” (as Churchill called it): Jewish Supremacists. Read of how Jewish Supremacists created and guided the Communist movement, from its germination, to the “Russian” Revolution, the seizure of Eastern Europe, its tentacles in America and Britain, South Africa and even in early Communist China. The great Russian patriot Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn who himself suffered greatly in the Jewish-run Gulags, and who later won the Nobel Prize, stated these powerful words: “You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They Hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse… More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their blood-stained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. ... April 9 is the Anniversary of the Zio Massacre at Deir Yassin — Remember! https://davidduke.com/deir-yassin-the-gulag-porn-and-the-violence-of-hollywo... ...
hey harkness, so now you're an anti-porn-crusader too, you worthless piece of shit? notice that as a brain-dead trumpo-fascist you're the number one cocksuker of the jews. So one wonders if you're infinitely stupid, infinitely dishonest, or both. also notice that the only thing the jews produce is hollywood war propaganda, not porn. Then again, one can't expect your JEW-fascist propaganda to even make half sense... "There is now overwhelming scientific evidence that Internet porn addiction is an epidemic" yep, you've reached your final category.
Your inability to read gets a bit silly. Your deceptions may be useful however to draw attention to who said what where, so possibly actually useful trolling in that sense, but I suspect most don't bother checking. In any case, Kenya's calling... On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 05:04:40PM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
hey harkness, so now you're an anti-porn-crusader too, you worthless piece of shit?
notice that as a brain-dead trumpo-fascist you're the number one cocksuker of the jews. So one wonders if you're infinitely stupid, infinitely dishonest, or both.
also notice that the only thing the jews produce is hollywood war propaganda, not porn. Then again, one can't expect your JEW-fascist propaganda to even make half sense...
"There is now overwhelming scientific evidence that Internet porn addiction is an epidemic"
yep, you've reached your final category.
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 11:54:57 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Your inability to read gets a bit silly.
what did I fail to read exactly? Your fake defense of free speech or your anti porn (i.e. anti free speech, among other things) Scientific Wisdom? I forgot to mention this : as an anti porn retard you belong in the same class as the feminazis. Go figure, a trumpo-fascist feminazi...
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