Re: Judge enjoins NSA to not collect metadata on attorney or his law firm.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-judge-rules-against-nsa-phone-spying-case-025251888-... By Dustin VolzOpponents of mass surveillance cheered the ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon, who granted an injunction to bar the NSA from collecting the phone metadata of California attorney J.J. Little and his small legal practice.WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. federal judge on Monday for the first time ordered the National Security Agency to cease collecting the phone call records of a lawyer and his firm, providing an unprecedented but narrow and largely symbolic victory to privacy advocates.Unlike previous rulings against the NSA's program to vacuum up Americans' call data, which was exposed publicly by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden in 2013, Leon’s opinion does not grant a stay, meaning it will take effect immediately.The decision is of little practical consequence because it is so narrow in scope in covering only Little and his firm.It also comes just weeks before the NSA is scheduled to end its controversial bulk collection program in favor of a more targeted system. That new regime, as mandated by Congress earlier this year, will become active on Nov. 29.But the ruling's language is forceful and represents a win for civil liberties groups concerned that NSA surveillance is too intrusive.Leon wrote that the case may be the last court evaluation of the NSA's bulk metadata collection program."It will not, however, be the last chapter in the ongoing struggle to balance privacy rights and national security interests under our Constitution in an age of evolving technological wizardry," he wrote.On Twitter, Snowden cheered the "historic decision" as one that concluded the NSA “violated Americans’ privacy rights.”Leon, a conservative judge appointed by former President George W. Bush, has long been among the most vocal judges critical of the NSA’s spying practices.Leon said he did not stay his Monday decision “because it has been almost two years since I first found that the NSA’s bulk telephony metadata program likely violates the Constitution."Other plaintiffs in the case, including conservative activist Larry Klayman, who began the lawsuit, were not included in the ruling, due to issues concerning standing.A higher court previously rejected Klayman’s challenge, saying he could not prove his phone was targeted by the NSA as Snowden’s documents only revealed customers of Verizon Business Network Services, which is a subsidiary of Verizon Communications, such as Little, were implicated. Klayman added Little to his case to address the standing concern.
Does anyone here actually believe the NSA gives a fuck what some pissant federal judge says? On 11/11/2015 06:53 PM, jim bell wrote:
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By Dustin Volz Opponents of mass surveillance cheered the ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon, who granted an injunction to bar the NSA from collecting the phone metadata of California attorney J.J. Little and his small legal practice.WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. federal judge on Monday for the first time ordered the National Security Agency to cease collecting the phone call records of a lawyer and his firm, providing an unprecedented but narrow and largely symbolic victory to privacy advocates. Unlike previous rulings against the NSA's program to vacuum up Americans' call data, which was exposed publicly by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden in 2013, Leon’s opinion does not grant a stay, meaning it will take effect immediately. The decision is of little practical consequence because it is so narrow in scope in covering only Little and his firm. It also comes just weeks before the NSA is scheduled to end its controversial bulk collection program in favor of a more targeted system. That new regime, as mandated by Congress earlier this year, will become active on Nov. 29. But the ruling's language is forceful and represents a win for civil liberties groups concerned that NSA surveillance is too intrusive. Leon wrote that the case may be the last court evaluation of the NSA's bulk metadata collection program. "It will not, however, be the last chapter in the ongoing struggle to balance privacy rights and national security interests under our Constitution in an age of evolving technological wizardry," he wrote. On Twitter, Snowden cheered the "historic decision" as one that concluded the NSA “violated Americans’ privacy rights.” Leon, a conservative judge appointed by former President George W. Bush, has long been among the most vocal judges critical of the NSA’s spying practices. Leon said he did not stay his Monday decision “because it has been almost two years since I first found that the NSA’s bulk telephony metadata program likely violates the Constitution." Other plaintiffs in the case, including conservative activist Larry Klayman, who began the lawsuit, were not included in the ruling, due to issues concerning standing. A higher court previously rejected Klayman’s challenge, saying he could not prove his phone was targeted by the NSA as Snowden’s documents only revealed customers of Verizon Business Network Services, which is a subsidiary of Verizon Communications, such as Little, were implicated. Klayman added Little to his case to address the standing concern.
An appeals court stayed the judge's order on 10 November 2015. DoJ filed 241 pages to win the stay: https://cryptome.org/2015/11/klayman-stay-15-1110.pdf (8.1MB) At 11:21 AM 11/12/2015, you wrote:
Does anyone here actually believe the NSA gives a fuck what some pissant federal judge says?
The document url you cited, an order by the District Judge, was dated the same day as "An appeals court stayed the judge's order on 10 November 2015."That would be a quick stay! Are we talking about the same stay? Jim Bell From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com> To: cypherpunks@cpunks.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:35 AM Subject: Appeals Court Stayed: Re: Judge enjoins NSA to not collect metadata on attorney or his law firm. An appeals court stayed the judge's order on 10 November 2015. DoJ filed 241 pages to win the stay: https://cryptome.org/2015/11/klayman-stay-15-1110.pdf (8.1MB) At 11:21 AM 11/12/2015, you wrote:
Does anyone here actually believe the NSA gives a fuck what some pissant federal judge says?
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:47 PM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
The document url you cited, an order by the District Judge, was dated the same day as "An appeals court stayed the judge's order on 10 November 2015." That would be a quick stay! Are we talking about the same stay?
Administrative stay issued for time to ponder the govt's appeal, nothing was actually ruled on, it's on hold for another week.
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