On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:57 AM, g2s <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:

-------- Original message -------- From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com> Date: 12/9/17 11:37 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 7:24 AM, g2s <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:

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-------- Original message -------- From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com> Date: 12/8/17 8:42 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 7:31 PM, g2s <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:

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-------- Original message -------- From: Michael Nelson <nelson_mikel@yahoo.com> Date: 12/8/17 6:22 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet

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The mapping between Bitcoin and energy is missing the point...

Not if the point is a dead planet.

That's ALL I care about. Cars, which you mention, are another much thornier issue because they've been made a social necessity and that will take time to undo. As with another not often acknowledged source of carbon based pollution due to humans... The factories that make damn near everything consumer industrial societies have.

But unlike those things, bitcoin generates huge amounts of pollution due to its electric demands, and, bluntly, it isn't necessary in any way shape or form.

Neither are coffee, tea, chocolate, sugar, sex and any number of other things that offend the sensibilities of the overly sensitive, and they aren't likely to disappear either...

Kurt

You denigrate your point by stating sex isn't necessary. Ropes whips and ioT glow in the dark vibrators aren't, but sex is as necessary to the survival of humans as sleep is.

Rr

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Artificial insemination

sik fuk

IVF, too. It's quite normal, so really, sex isn't "necessary". Sure is fun, though.

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And I find that most who decry the use of "unnecessary things' by others

You think I include myself out? Really?

Hahahaha!

No, I think you belong squarely in the category of moral pecksniffs who would deny "unnecessary things" to others to "save the planet".

Tell you what. Save evolution the work. Extinct yourself now...

Rr

Too late - I already have two children. I just wish I had more. Also, I burn wood in my fireplace, and have both a car and a big ol' pickup truck, and I commute with the latter to work, getting roughly 9-10 mpg. Kurt