----- Forwarded message from Nick <liberationtech@njw.me.uk> ----- Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:36:30 +0100 From: Nick <liberationtech@njw.me.uk> To: liberationtech <liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] NSA collects millions of e-mail address books globally Message-ID: <20131015103630.GA3319@starfish> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Reply-To: liberationtech <liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:49:46AM +0200, Moritz Bartl wrote:

A self-hosted mail provider will obviously *not* help much against NSAs mass collection of emails and email addresses. Don't sell it as a "solution" in this context.

Well the article seems to be talking about "address books", as opposed to just harvesting email addresses without context. The same thing could be (and is being) done through metadata capture too, but if I read the article correctly, the direct address book pillaging (which may have extra useful metadata on contact networks compared to collecting email headers over time) is something that using any (secure) self-hosted provider (or local client) would defeat. But as to your general point, I agree that hijacking every thread with adverts for a project is certainly not an activity that is OK, and is not the sort of behaviour that fills me with confidence about said project. -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at companys@stanford.edu. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5