COINTELPRO all over again: Darren Seals, Ferguson protest organizer found shot & killed in charred remains of his car. Ferguson organizers were being cyberstalked by cloudflare. Read all about it: https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/773532954794405888
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:19:38AM -0700, Razer wrote:
COINTELPRO all over again: Darren Seals, Ferguson protest organizer found shot & killed in charred remains of his car.
Ferguson organizers were being cyberstalked by cloudflare.
Read all about it: https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/773532954794405888
Bizarre how https://auntieimperial.tumblr.com redirects to http//*, dropping the SSL. (at least for me)
On 09/07/2016 09:04 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:19:38AM -0700, Razer wrote:
COINTELPRO all over again: Darren Seals, Ferguson protest organizer found shot & killed in charred remains of his car.
Ferguson organizers were being cyberstalked by cloudflare.
Read all about it: https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/773532954794405888
Bizarre how https://auntieimperial.tumblr.com redirects to http//*, dropping the SSL. (at least for me)
For some reason tumblr (Yahoo! owned) never used https for the blog pages. It's always been that way. I have also kept blogspot blogs (Google) over the years which does use https, but 'google'. Rr
On 09/07/2016 09:04 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:19:38AM -0700, Razer wrote:
COINTELPRO all over again: Darren Seals, Ferguson protest organizer found shot & killed in charred remains of his car.
Ferguson organizers were being cyberstalked by cloudflare.
Read all about it: https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/773532954794405888
Bizarre how https://auntieimperial.tumblr.com redirects to http//*, dropping the SSL. (at least for me)
If it's any assistance: Starting Nmap 6.40 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2016-09-07 10:18 PDT Nmap scan report for auntieimperial.tumblr.com (66.6.33.149) Host is up (0.097s latency). Other addresses for auntieimperial.tumblr.com (not scanned): 66.6.33.21 66.6.32.21 TRACEROUTE (using port 443/tcp) HOP RTT ADDRESS 1 ... 2 2.42 ms 50-242-68-102-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (50.242.68.102) 3 14.93 ms 96.120.89.117 4 15.95 ms te-0-7-0-3-sur04.scotts.ca.sfba.comcast.net (68.87.199.189) 5 19.06 ms be-321-ar01.hayward.ca.sfba.comcast.net (162.151.79.121) 6 20.31 ms lag-14.ear2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.72.101) 7 ... 8 94.61 ms YAHOO-INC.ear2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.14.4.250) 9 97.14 ms et-19-0-0.pat2.bfz.yahoo.com (216.115.97.105) 10 100.16 ms et-19-1-0.msr2.bf2.yahoo.com (74.6.227.151) 11 90.64 ms et-1-1-0.clr1-a-gdc.bf2.yahoo.com (74.6.122.53) 12 90.61 ms et1.egr4-4-tba.bf2.yahoo.com (74.6.64.205) 13 ... 16 17 92.05 ms 66.6.33.149 Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 4.42 seconds
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:19:38AM -0700, Razer wrote:
Read all about it: https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/773532954794405888
Your twitts refer to your tumblr which refers back to your twitts. Zero credible evidence. This is nonsense. And, frankly, why should the NSA use Cloudflare to spy on random people on the twitters? They've got better tools for this kind of stuff. - Tom
On 09/07/2016 09:06 AM, Tom wrote:
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:19:38AM -0700, Razer wrote:
Read all about it: https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/773532954794405888
Your twitts refer to your tumblr which refers back to your twitts. Zero credible evidence.
This is nonsense.
And, frankly, why should the NSA use Cloudflare to spy on random people on the twitters? They've got better tools for this kind of stuff.
- Tom
They don't 'spy on random people on the twitters' schmuck. CLoudflare keeps NEAR-REALTIME FULL COPIES OF WEBSITES with ALL UR DATAZ. Every speck of it, and turns it over to DHS and PDs and Fusion Centers on request b/c "National Security" and the FISA courts turned down ZERO of the 4K plus requests received last year anyway. Right below the first tweet "What I know about Cloudflare". For people who don't know (schmuck) One of those site is "Ferguson Action". Get the drift? Or are you simply stupid? Further, If you don't like my posting style or you're simply not interested, and I can tell by you're failure to read any of it, fuck off. Don't read my shit. The post has some screenshots of tweets but there's a fuck of a lot more. Also in the tweetstream, another twitter user posted a screenshot of a very disgruntled black man's tweet claiming Darren Seals, the murder victim, shut him down at a meeting about some topic or another. Not that that individual was the murderer, but that IS HOW COINTELPRO operates, by diverting people to think their cause is more important, that someone 'disrespected' or is a fed. Leonard Peltier is doing life because SOMEONE COINTELPRO-affiliated convinced SOMEONE that Annie Mae Aquash was a fed snitch, and that SOMEONE killed her, but you can bet Peltier had nothing to do with it except get framed for the alleged murder weapon, charred in the trunk with the rest of a burned car on the Oklahoma Turnpike. Any other criticisms? Anything USEFUL to offer, "Tom"? Besides trying to dissuade people from reading it b/c of some non-factual nonsense on your part. Rr
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 10:03:53AM -0700, Razer wrote:
They don't 'spy on random people on the twitters' schmuck.
Of course not, they just login to the database, honey.
CLoudflare keeps NEAR-REALTIME FULL COPIES OF WEBSITES with ALL UR DATAZ. Every speck of it, and turns it over to DHS and PDs and Fusion Centers on request b/c "National Security" and the FISA courts turned down ZERO of the 4K plus requests received last year anyway.
Cloudflare caches content so they can serve it. Pretty standard job like Akamai or Amazon do as well. And why would they "hand over website content" to some agency? It's public.
Further, If you don't like my posting style or you're simply not interested, and I can tell by you're failure to read any of it, fuck off. Don't read my shit.
I don't care about your style. What I do care about is that your "Cloudflare conspiracy" is utter nonsense. Posting more twitts and calling me names doesn't make it more true. Like:
Also in the tweetstream, another twitter user posted a screenshot of a very disgruntled black man's tweet claiming Darren Seals, the murder
A twitter post about a twitter post about a twitter post. Now that's what I'd call serious evidence. http://i.imgur.com/LVY2jhM.gif
Any other criticisms? Anything USEFUL to offer, "Tom"? Besides trying to dissuade people from reading it b/c of some non-factual nonsense on your part.
I think people are able to decide themselfes and do not require me to dissuade them from reading mails. I just want to see better evidence for your claims. best, Tom
On 09/07/2016 10:37 AM, Tom wrote:
Cloudflare caches content so they can serve it. Pretty standard job like Akamai or Amazon do as well. And why would they "hand over website content" to some agency? It's public.
Hey! Youre right! Akmai and Amazon do that too, and it's NOT just 'caching pages' Cloudflare DNS's the sites they protect, and the other ones you mentioned aren't noted for running honeypots for the feds including ISIS chat rooms. To turn over all the dataz on potential 'terrorists' like they do with US activists. Cloudflare has a very public known relationship with the DHS... DIRECTLY. House tesitmony on that ISIS 'thing':
Links to this video were first posted on ISIS’ main online chat forum, alplatformmedia.com and, naturally, the question that follows from this analysis is: How is ISIS able to operate its own offi-cial .com social media platform on the Internet in order to disseminate its media?
And the answer to that question is another billion-dollar San Francisco-based company called CloudFlare, which aims to shield Web sites from being targeted by spammers, cyber criminals and denial of service attacks. CloudFlare in essence serves as a gatekeeper to control the flow of unwanted visitors to a given site. It has advanced detection fea-tures that thwart attempts by automated robots to scrape data from and monitor these forums. In fact, two of ISIS’ top three online chat forums, including alplatformmedia.com, are currently guarded by CloudFlare.
Without such protection, these sites would almost certainly succumb to the same relentless online attacks that have completely collapsed several major jihadi web forums in recent years. In 2013, after CloudFlare was accused of providing protection to terrorist Web sites, the company CEO insisted that,
‘‘It would not be right for us to monitor the content that flows through our network and make determinations on what is and what is not politically appropriate. Frankly, that would be creepy.’’
He also asserted,
‘‘A Web site is speech. It is not a bomb. There is no imminent danger it creates and no provider has an affirmative obligation to monitor and make determinations about the theoretically harmful nature of speech a site may contain.’’
It is extremely difficult to reconcile the logical paradox that it is currently illegal under U.S. law to give pro bono assistance to a terrorist group in order to convince them to adopt politics instead of violence but it is perfectly legal for CloudFlare to commercially profit from a terrorist group by assisting them to disseminate prop-aganda which encourages mass murder.
In fact, CloudFlare’s CEO has been adamant that, ‘‘CloudFlare abides by all applicable laws in the countries in which we operate and we firmly support the due process of law.’
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/FA/FA18/20150127/102855/HHRG-114-FA18-Transcr... And that "Due Law" means they have the go ahead from tthe HIGHEST PLACES in the DOJ to do so... A blanket go-ahead, and the exact same thing is being done to US hot-button issue activists It bores me that you don't give a fuck about any of this, but it's ABSOLUTELY within any version quoted of the list's charter and maybe if you don't care about it, or for it, you should simply shut the fuck up troll. Rr
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 19:37:32 +0200 Tom <tom@vondein.org> wrote:
Cloudflare caches content so they can serve it. Pretty standard job like Akamai or Amazon do as well. And why would they "hand over website content" to some agency? It's public.
cloudflare *requires* you to turn on JS to access the content they serve, PLUS https://info.ssl.com/the-real-cost-of-a-cloudflare-free-ssl-certificate/
Just so long as the CEO of Cloudflare isnt the same guy who worked with the US DoD to set up Projwct Honeypot then we're all good right? oh, right. Cloudflare handles at least 4% of web traffic according to their own marketing, thats pretty useful if you want to create a single place to collate details of someone's web activities across multie sites. It's not as if many so-called activist or privacy protecting websites sit behind Cloudflare's protective shield though right? oh, right. Cloudflare, Akamai et al are massive anti-privacy and anti-security services that put users safety at risk because the websites they cache are too cheap to do the job themselves. What is also important is that the web caching services may have no legal responsibility to protect user data because there is no direct contract between them and the end user. They are the greatest argument move the web to a distributed, encrypted model. On 7 September 2016 18:37:32 GMT+01:00, Tom <tom@vondein.org> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 10:03:53AM -0700, Razer wrote:
They don't 'spy on random people on the twitters' schmuck.
Of course not, they just login to the database, honey.
CLoudflare keeps NEAR-REALTIME FULL COPIES OF WEBSITES with ALL UR DATAZ. Every speck of it, and turns it over to DHS and PDs and Fusion Centers on request b/c "National Security" and the FISA courts turned down ZERO of the 4K plus requests received last year anyway.
Cloudflare caches content so they can serve it. Pretty standard job like Akamai or Amazon do as well. And why would they "hand over website content" to some agency? It's public.
Further, If you don't like my posting style or you're simply not interested, and I can tell by you're failure to read any of it, fuck off. Don't read my shit.
I don't care about your style. What I do care about is that your "Cloudflare conspiracy" is utter nonsense. Posting more twitts and calling me names doesn't make it more true. Like:
Also in the tweetstream, another twitter user posted a screenshot of a very disgruntled black man's tweet claiming Darren Seals, the murder
A twitter post about a twitter post about a twitter post. Now that's what I'd call serious evidence. http://i.imgur.com/LVY2jhM.gif
Any other criticisms? Anything USEFUL to offer, "Tom"? Besides trying to dissuade people from reading it b/c of some non-factual nonsense on your part.
I think people are able to decide themselfes and do not require me to dissuade them from reading mails. I just want to see better evidence for your claims.
best, Tom
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
On 09/07/2016 09:06 AM, Tom wrote:
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:19:38AM -0700, Razer wrote:
Read all about it: https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/773532954794405888
Your twitts refer to your tumblr which refers back to your twitts. Zero credible evidence.
This is nonsense.
And, frankly, why should the NSA use Cloudflare to spy on random people on the twitters? They've got better tools for this kind of stuff.
- Tom
You might want to note the account that posted an inflammatory tweet right out of the institutional slander playbook (See: https://twitter.com/Aristotle_Code/status/773534700363091968) no longer exists (https://twitter.com/bdoulaoblongata). He used the word 'us' to describe a group of people Seals allegedly 'shut down'. I'll bet even money the "Us" referred to were New Black Panther Party provocateurs... Useful idiots and police agents every one. Someone with more time on their hands MIGHT be able to backtrack, figure out which meeting the 'shutdown' happened at, get a look at the group of people described as "Us" ... and in that group you will most likely find the person who killed Seals, or will be set up to look like they did. It WOULD be a lot easier to do if the account still existed. That's why it's gone. Rr
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