On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 03:42:21PM -0500, John Newman wrote:

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On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:

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On 02/22/2017 12:10 PM, Razer wrote:

On 02/22/2017 10:54 AM, Mirimir responds to Eugen Leitl:

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It's allright, I haven't read anything worthwhile here in years. I hope that you're exaggerating;)

I'm just wondering if Eugen Leitl ever contributed anything useful, or he's just a lurker/whiner who hasn't contributed anything worthwhile himself.

I find lots of good stuff from him, but not since the list went to shit.

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And I concur. There's an attempt to hijack the list by alt-right trolls that seemed to begin when the majority of people who actually post supported io during his vilification by institutional slander.

Yes, that was the timing. But it's puzzling. I mean, are the alt-right trolls part of the anti-io cabal? But Z*n and Alex were io supporters! Maybe they were double agents ;) Or maybe they aren't really either, but rather ED/*chan assholes, just in it for the lulz. Hard to say.

I'm reminded of Jack Barsky, the former Soviet spy who coded for years for IBM etc.[0,1] This from the Guardian piece is very interesting:

| In the 1980s, Barskyâ<80><99>s most interesting potential recruits were | radical rightwing ideologues; here, Soviet agents would pose as | activists from the radical right. â<80><9c>There was one individual I | reported on who Iâ<80><99>m convinced would have fallen for that, because | he was so strongly rightwing,â<80><9d> he says. But Barsky doesnâ<80><99>t know if | any of them proved useful sources for the KGB; it was operational | procedure that the agent who did the profiling and the agent who | tried to recruit them were different people. He continued to send | the profiles; the rest remained a mystery.

So I wonder how much of the alt-right are actually Russian agents. That would be such a fucking coup! USA, pwned ;)

Interesting theory ;). Z*n used to post strictly russian propaganda bullshit, then slowly converted to his current (as of when i blocked him anyway) Trump alt-right anti-semitic fascist nazi persona.

<long line bitch slap for you Jon) The problem with USAians is the lack of arrogance in their assumptions. If they really spiced it up, they'd finally realise that the whole rest of the world became KGB spies decades ago. Welp, better to realise late than never :/

Maybe the FSB asked him to switch it up ;)

If I told you I ...

I never thought Alex was smart enough to be his handler, in fact his responses were so moronic and transparent it seems he's stopped posting. Again, maybe at the FSB's direction ;)

Our ways are far too intelectuall for a schooled lad like yourself :D

The wonderful world we live in.

Isn't it just.