I was having a delusional experience during the two days of these events, but I like to think I held it together relatively well. I sent this to coderman and have not heard further yet; I hope coderman is well. Sharing this with list for archive and transparency. On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 8:13 PM Karl wrote:

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 7:42 PM Karl wrote:

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Hi coderman.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 6:56 PM coderman wrote:

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‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, July 26th, 2021 at 4:15 PM, Karl wrote:

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One of the goals here is to protect the content from being mutated by storing signable running hashes.

That goal is not quite met yet.

Raw mail data rocks in my pro-surveillance opinion, but obviously you need signatures.

going forward, i'll include detached signatures. i will also note SHA2-256 digests. ( the latter more quantum resistant in a future where universal QC exists :)

This sounds strong. I'm dissociated further at the moment while I honor the shreds remaining of my sense of death and tears. I experienced mind control around feelings of care for cecilia on talking to her. It's intense and confusing.

I was kind of confused when I expressed the concern above regarding raw and signatures. I meant the signatures in the messages, which you already included; I was misled by the .txt extension. I've been confused all day.

What's important is that people need a way to preserve and share evidence that is nation-state resistant and easy to use.

(So they don't get killed to cover things up, I suppose)

If the list meets the preservation and share goal, it helps for people who happen to be on it. If those people are devving software that helps, it helps further.

Sorry I am so confused.

You've clearly experienced the "changes" , too. Do you still remember your own emotions? Do you have new emotions that are strong?

It's a little painful to see the other posts with the cecilia one, but I also suspect some people process things by doing work. I've done that.

I don't really think my internet is real. Once Cecilia told me you had made a mysogynistic post, and when I asked what it was and mentioned you had backed me up when I had concerns of rape in my area, she changed what she said and said your post was technical. ... maybe my internet is real in those ways I dunno ... I was saying more things but my mc stepped in again.

I realised that this was really mean. That was probably my programming to disrupt the community. I suspect she was just handling something similar and you didn't make such a post. She sent me a lot of trump-ish (mysogynist) messages herself privately when acting threatened. When I responded differently our communications were cut for some time.

So I guess it's so harsh because it's automatic, just some distant RL

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algorithms or such. Dunno.

I spoke with Marxos today. I seemed to leave them pretty sad. Hope you are well.

Marxos's facebook profile mentions suicde like you and me so he better not kill himself over this or anything. He seems kinda dreamy himself. I looked at some of his software projects and one of them had something that read like a complaint of not doing what he chose, to me.

This shit is crazy but we're going to get through it somehow. The caring human spirits are all there, just shoved into corners so that they act less.

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It's super to make an additional copy!

It's super to make an additional copy!

agreed; thank you for the additional reference!

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best regards,

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