[spam] just forwarding my messages with Greg during downtime to the list. When confused, share and preserve, that's my motto. On Thu, May 27, 2021, 4:10 PM Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> wrote:

Here are the 900+ logfile messages for your email address, in case you find anything informative.

As noted, I've made a few changes. These include: - turning off outbound spamassassin for cypherpunks list traffic, via whitelist - adding a bad spamc.cf setting, then fixing it (pertains to maximum message length of messages, which isn't a factor in the cpunks list) - removing blacklist checking, as mentioned on the list

The bounce score in Mailman isn't much of an issue: if you get unsubscribed, I can easily add you back. But I don't know where those bounces came from - Mailman doesn't provide an easy way, even for a list admin, to recover specific bounce details.

I'm not paranoid about surveillance on the cypherpunks list, since it's an open list with open archives. The subscriber list is kept confidential within Mailman (so only I can see it), but anyone that could tap the network would know who messages were going to. So, it's confidential, but barely secure.

The standard techniques like John linked to are much more likely to be damaging, or potentially damaging, to the cypherpunks list: https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

Meanwhile, though, it's distressing that gmail seems to be filtering. I indeed confirmed that a list message went to the spam folder, but it was visible there (i.e., it didn't simply disappear, for me).

Best, Greg

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Maybe some day a cronjob that filters logs for only people who post, or only who have an option set, could make for public logs eventually ...

Yes, that would be aligned with the transparency that is the

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 01:23:10PM -0400, Karl wrote: philosophy of

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the list. Best, Greg

grep --fixed-strings --file=one_email_address_per_line.txt /var/log/mailman/bounce.log > public_logfile

mailman is written in python; i'm thinking of how hackable it might be.

sorry to be bugging you, it's sad the bounces don't show up in the logs =S really some malicious sotware could be messing with us. cleaning logfiles is such a basic part of malicious software.