On Jul 3, 2016 4:06 PM, "juan" wrote:

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[Cecilia] I admiss I didn't like Boyce, Dani Moth, Quinn and Ted's

messages, but I am not "making excuses" for their country, Juan.

You aren't? But a country like the US wouldn't exist without

scumbags like the ted smiths, boyces, quinns, that psycho steven, the syversons and his lapdogs. Juan, my dear, US already have lots of people making excuses for them and being well paid for it. Don't worry, I won't waste my time with it. I simply told you what I think about countries, governments and people. The same way there are lots of awesome persons in all the countries, there are lots of bad persons ("scumbags"?) in all the countries too. (Sorry, I still don't know exactly what "scumbag" means, because there are several bizarre definitions in Brazilian posts ("gentalha"? wtf?), but probably there are lots of scumbags in all the places, haha!!)

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[Cecilia] Quinn is intolerant and has narrow patterns of decency, but he is a good person and I like him, Juan.

You are seriously fucked up then.

Well, I am sure Quinn thinks exactly the same thing all the times when I say I like you in public, my dear Juan... hihi... ;)

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[Cecilia] You are not exactly tolerant and open-minded too, haha!! ;D

That comes from you, who support the US nazis? Ha ha.

I never said that I am tolerant and open-minded, Juan. Sorry if you felt offended with my words. I don't support any kind of 'nazis'. Radical people are extremely boring.

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[Cecilia] Sorry, I don't believe in all researches because I have lots of researchers as friends and colleagues and I was a researcher in several moments of my life too

So? You know they are all dishonest, including yourself?

Hmm... Sorry, after talking about deaths, wars and rapes, I confess I was thinking only in Portuguese. Always is the most comfortable language for me. Pardon, reading now what wrote yesterday, there are more mistakes and I didn't write some words when talking about the rapes. Both made me feel the same way, the same deep panic of death, the same smell of fear. Sorry for it. "Eu não acredito em todas as pesquisas" here doesn't mean necessarily that I really do _not_ believe in _all_ researches. If I really wouldn't believe in all researches, in Portuguese, I would use 'double negative', what doesn't exist in English, sorry. I would say "Eu não acredito em nenhuma pesquisa", Juan. I simply translated - literally - what I thought in that moment and doesn't make sense in English, sorry. I was trying to say that not necessarily I believe in all researches, that I don't believe in some of them... Does it sound better now or should I try again? :P

On Jul 3, 2016 7:51 PM, "juan" wrote:

My position is radically different to that of quinn and his mob

and yet you think we are both 'likeable'? Your opinions here are absurd. Juan, you and Quinn are not my friends, but I appreciate both. Certainly not enough to invite you to visit my house or to borrow money and books, but I like you both. :) A fool example, I have friends who believe in God in a blind way and also extremely Atheists friends. They are good persons and I sincerely respect all of them. They have different personal beliefs, but they all have good character and are intelligent.

Not to mention, again, that you think that a totalitarian piece

of shit like quinn is a good guy. Since you believe that, your moral judgements are a bad joke...which shows what you really stand for. He is a good person. Too moralist and intollerant for being my friend, but he is a good person. You are a good person, but very aggressive in some moments and pretty intollerant too. Uff... Juan, you seem to know more about me than myself to judge me so bad in all the moments. Please, what do I really stand for?

Fine. I'm not tolerant either. I don't tolerate stupidity and

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[Cecilia] Sorry if you felt offended with my words. I don't support any kind of 'nazis'. Radical people are extremely boring.

Not sure who you are calling radical? The nazis? The problem with

evil intentions or acts. As to being 'open minded', again, I'm certainly not open minded to stupidity. Being 'open minded' to stupidity is hardly a virtue. Juan, if I show you some truth and you don't like it, you simply will say it is stupidity because you are too proud and hard headed for admissing when are wrong. the nazis were not that they were radicals. Or that they were 'boring'... I was not talking about nazism, only about extremely radical people: feminazis, vegan nazis, econazis, etc. Sorry, at least for me, radical people are always boring and/or annoing.

I don't think your explanation changes anything. You want to

ignore this particular poll because it doesn't paint the americunts in a good light. But the poll is completely consistent with americunt 'culture'. If anything the real numbers are prolly higher. Juan, it hurts me a lot because it is a pool about my family's death, not because "doesn't paint the americans in a good light". It would hurt me the same if it was a pool about French people opinion, if it was a pool about Chinese people opinion... The problem is thinking about people saying that it was correct to use nuclear weapons to kill people. And, please, always remember that laws, sausages and researches are not made in a beautiful way. I don't trust in all researchers that I've knowed. I already saw some serious frauds in works and books.

On Jul 3, 2016 10:33 PM, "juan" wrote:

You don't know anything about me, apart from the political

comments I've made here. Same thing for quinn. All we know about him is that he's a totalitarian american shitbag. Whatever your personal connection to him is, (if any) it's irrelevant here. Why are you so sure about it, my dear Juan? You never will know exactly what I know, hihi... Nobody can know _exactly_ what another person knows. Never forget it, my dear. :-)

It is absurd for you to conclude that I'm a 'good' person and

that quinn is a 'good' person too, since we represent completely opposed views of what 'good' means.

Is this so hard to grasp?

My dear Juan, I am talking about MY subjetive impressions about persons in general. Why can't you accept that I don't think exactly what you want I think? :((( Is it so offensive for you if I have my own opinion and it is different than yours? Why are you trying to impose me your opinion like a dictator? :((( Please, you say to be an 'anarchist', so be coherent. You say I am a 'retard', but I am an honest retard and you are not being honest, if you really are an anarchist. I didn't try to impose you my opinion. I simply told you what I think about you, and people, and about countries, wars, whatever... I never said my words are an 'absolute truth' or that I never will be wrong...

'Religious' liars are not good persons. Lying is not good.

Hey! Don't you respect a person's beliefs? Why do you think a religious person is a liar? :P Not necessarily. Even using Math or Physics, nobody can prove the existence or not of a God (or Gods, or Godess, or Godesses, whatever). If God exists, it is not a lie. There are several religions and holy books, but there is not an unambiguous, definitive interpretation of God, Juan. Sincerely? I don't trust religions and holy books, but I tried to study lots and lots of possibilities when younger. Reviews? Always is about love. Trying to be a good person and avoiding to be a bad person is enough. (I am not talking about being a 'saint' or something similar. Just avoiding to be a son of a b¡tch is enough and God and/or the people will sincerely appreciate your efforts! :-) I know, infinitely subjetive points of view, different backgrounds and ways of being, etc, etc... Part of world's beauty is how different can be the persons. Some people explode cities using nuclear weapons, some people try to build a whole new world... :-)

OK. "Good" means nothing to you.

Oh, good! hihi... :-)

Tell me Cecilia, is it OK for governments to exist? You know, the

'good' utopian governments that do stuff that you think is 'good', like, I don't know 'free' schooling for poor children. You already know what I think about governments. I don't support them.

If I recall correctly you said you are not an anarchist, but I'm

making sure...before pointing out that you are in no position to call me 'aggressive' or 'intolerant'. Only limited and/or stupid people respect labels. A person is much more than empty labels. Persons are their acts, their thoughts, their words, not the labels they like to use in society. If you want to use the "anarchist" label, the problem is yours, not mine. I hate governments, but I really think it is very limited to say "Oh, I am anarchist". Instead just talking about being a proud anarchist in lists, mimimi mimimi, do something real to destroy governments. "Talking is cheap, show me the code", do you remember? I am doing my part instead consider myself an anarchist. I only make jokes using 'vegan' and 'veggie' labels to explain that I don't eat meat and I don't like to kill animals, because the people really have serious problems to understand my reasons and it is easier to use a stupid already knowed label than spending time explaining all my actions. Nobody seems to care enough to see my acts, they just want to know my labels and judge them. Sorry, if I need to say "Oh, Juan, I am anarchist" to be accepted for you, we never will be friends. See my actions and who I am instead trying to impose your opinion with offenses. :P

What am I wrong about?

Uff... God, I didn't say you are wrong. It was an hypothesis. Please, think instead being so defensive.

OK - and the relevance here is? Or was that just one more random

and irrelevant thought? I was answering to your comment, Juan. Please, read again what you wrote before. My thoughts are so 'irrelevant' as yours. Or do you *really* think that everything you wrote is relevant for someone? Sorry, the world doesn't work this way! :-) Believe me, nobody says only 'relevant' things. First of all, because 'relevance' is pretty subjective. An important thing for me not necessarily will be relevant for me, and vice versa.

The ones who are saying it are the americans.

So tell me again about how good countries are and how much

respect they deserve? Uff... Juan, did you really read what I wrote before? I am too lazy to repeat everything again! :((( Sorry, I will stop to spend your time and also mine, Juan. Believe me, we both will be banned again if we make an infinite discussion here and I certainly will win in the end. I am not saying that I am right. I am just saying I will win at the end. Remember: I can do the same things that you, and wearing high heels, make up and dress. And I am much more 'troll' and 'hard headed' than you can be in this life and in all next lives, if they exist, hihi! :D I can be more boring and repetitive than you, my dear Juan, and I am Brazilian. Our national motto is "I am Brazilian and I never give up" ("Eu sou brasileiro/a e não desisto nunca"), hahaha!!! ;D Have a lovely night and sweet dreams, my dear! Try the serotonin and endorphins thing! Your body will thank you! <3 Cecilia PS: - You are a _without fuck¡ng_ boring and grumpy old sir, but I still like you, Juan. A bit less, but I still would give you a cupuaçu popsicle! You can't stop my affection, la la la... My feelings are mine, not yours, hahaha!! #singing #lalala ;D Yep, I know I am a _with fuck¡ng_ boring and grumpy old lady! #ProudTroll :))))

On Jul 4, 2016 2:45 AM, "Zenaan Harkness" wrote:

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[Cecilia] Part of world's beauty is how different can be the persons.

Some people explode cities using nuclear weapons, some people try to build a whole new world... :-)

Yes, from an artistic point of view, exploding a city could be seen as a

"beautiful thing". I never said that exploding a city is a "beautiful thing". I was not talking about art, just about human nature. Contrasts between destruction and creation. Sorry, I will leave the thread or I will spend millions of words to say the obvious in an absolutely not polite way. After telling that half of my family was killed because the city they used to live was destroied, I think it is pretty hard to see a city exploding and people dying under "an artistic point of view".

2016-07-04 8:35 GMT+03:00 Zenaan Harkness : Yes it's good to focus on the love. But for survival, sometimes we must focus on the evil, just so much so that we can protect ourselves.

Bingo, Zen! Well expressed.

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