How govcorp and its arpanet operate
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 01:31:02PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
There's a very good point here, TO all wanna be revolutionaries: that high paid, full time job you get offered, possibly even a million dollar buyout of whatever mini-pyramid you just built to facilitate your fellow revolutionaries or just ornary folks in general to communicate and explore ideas with one another, will suck your Soul dry. It's the sellout, stupid. You take those few silver shekels (in exchange for leaving your current path behind) and you proclaim to the world that you just then, both literally and figuratively, sold out. Those who find themselves in this situation go through certain thought processes: - Oh, I'll just build a new revolutionary platform in my NEXT time spare time. - --I-- did it once, I can do it again. - It's not THAT bad - the site/platform/concept lives on still. - Someone ELSE will surely pick up the ball and take it to the next obvious/ better/ more revolutionary level. - --I-- made so much personal sacrifice, it's high time I got to relax/ indulge/ retire etc. All of these and all the rest are nothing but shitty justifications for Selling Out Your Soul for a few silver shekels. In -every- one of these situations, you failed the prisoner's dilemma: you still sold out those who supported you, those who believed in you, hoped with you, shed tears over Soul cookies with you, fought for a better world with you. And to state the bleeding obvious, neither they, but most importantly -you-, will ever forget. You and they may forgive, but you forever did the deed, sold out the faithful and even the merely hopeful. For a nicer house, a fancier car… yes Bud, you finally "kept up with the Jones's" <sarcastic> clap ... clap ... clap </> Afterwards, there is always at least a little shame that lives on in YOUR heart forever more ...
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 6:15 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
The reason Zenaan kept talking, is because we sold out and don't know how to stop.
They'll just be even more injured and stupid, and make even less progress, because they lived in the results of our failure.
So long as our body lives, our Soul tries to take responsibility for it.
And to state the bleeding obvious, neither they, but most importantly -you-, will ever forget.
What's relevant is that every one of our failures, is stored permanently as a scar on our species, that children will be learning from by studying, in some way, forever.
It hurts to see this sarcastic display. I can only infer you learned to communicate this way because many others are. We will visit your community and show your children real applause. [mirrored sarcasm in attempt to support, caused by real cognitive injury] Afterwards, there is always at least a little shame that lives on in YOUR
heart forever more ...
Shame. Your children are raised to make good decisions because of shame, as well as fake applause? Are your people well? Don't they get slow and apathetic when nourishing their families?
On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 9:32 AM Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
We notice memes, messages, and marketing spreading that alter the dialogue. New groups of people come in from other areas, where they have been extensively exposed to other messaging, or develop habits that interact poorly with the community.
On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 9:34 AM Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
The few people who speak rationally are disreupted in advance so that nobody listens to them. Soon, the community looks like a conflict. People are still there having productive discussions, but they break into groups that can't quite connect. Eventually, after a long time, everything turns into a garden grown like a product for market.
On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 09:32:51AM -0500, Karl wrote:
The quote sounds rough, but everybody knows that free speech is temporary until the venue is forced to sell out.
No one is forced to sell out. Your intention to allow people who sell out, to be able to use bullshit excuses like "I was forced to sell out", takes responsibility away from people. Taking responsibility away from people is a destructive act in this world, and damages many things including "community".
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