Please stop top posting [was: TrueCrupt...]
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Cathal Garvey <cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
However, sorry, but I'll continue emailing as I always have done; if I come from a different internet culture to you, and if top-posting is anathema to you but not I, that's just
... lazy. You know the history and reasons the internet has against top posting, especially on newgroups and mailing lists. You and everyone else top posting are just lazy culture at the expense/abuse of other people, in particular the brain power needed to decipher your messages in both direction and context. Stop wasting hundreds of other people's cycles and invest some of your own. Learn trimming and interleaving replies, google it, make your mail art, not dog shit. (: shitter a as but asses lazy your to cost no it's all After. off else everyone pissing on keep, want all you what that's if But.
You know the history and reasons the internet has against top posting, especially on newgroups and mailing lists.
I know the reasons but they don't apply to me, nor to a growing majority of users who don't use text-only clients. Most clients these days are pre-configured to hide replied-to text unless directly quoted, making pre-quoted text actually more irritating than sub-quoted. Despite this, I *do* use text-only mode, and nevertheless find scrolling down to find replies inline irksome. So, as I mentioned previously, this is a cultural difference; I find your preferred mode annoying, and you find mine annoying. Tough; you don't own the internet, and neither do I. I won't waste my time conforming to your expectations, and you won't to mine. So we get over it and move on. ..did you really call top-posting "abuse of other people"? Dude, get some perspective! On 07/01/15 10:07, grarpamp wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Cathal Garvey <cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
However, sorry, but I'll continue emailing as I always have done; if I come from a different internet culture to you, and if top-posting is anathema to you but not I, that's just
... lazy.
You know the history and reasons the internet has against top posting, especially on newgroups and mailing lists. You and everyone else top posting are just lazy culture at the expense/abuse of other people, in particular the brain power needed to decipher your messages in both direction and context. Stop wasting hundreds of other people's cycles and invest some of your own. Learn trimming and interleaving replies, google it, make your mail art, not dog shit.
(: shitter a as but asses lazy your to cost no it's all After. off else everyone pissing on keep, want all you what that's if But.
On Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 10:21:42AM +0000, Cathal Garvey wrote:
You know the history and reasons the internet has against top posting, especially on newgroups and mailing lists.
I know the reasons but they don't apply to me, nor to a growing majority of
how embarrasing, how ignorant. gtfo pls. -- otr fp: https://www.ctrlc.hu/~stef/otr.txt
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 5:21 AM, Cathal Garvey <cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
Despite this, I *do* use text-only mode
That's wise and perhaps even generous of you, thanks.
scrolling [...] irksome
Someday they'll get tired of costly context "huh's", reading backwards, and wasted mail space... and realize scrolling with trim and interleave is a naturally elegant pairing.
pre-configured
They might even get so irked as to raise a finger to configure that.
cultural
I hear configuring a lamp and turning pages in books is irksome these days too, what with swiping on backlit screens being so superior. Sad this culture.
I know the reasons [...] ..did you really call top-posting "abuse of other people"?
Yes, and I called them lazy too. My post stands.
On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 02:21:42 -0800, Cathal Garvey <cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
nevertheless find scrolling down to find replies inline irksome.
This is about the only point on this issues where I can agree with Cathal. Bottom posting makes more sense to me but scrolling through pages of mangled cascading-80-character-wrapped-indented-reply garbage just to get to 'the meat' annoys me just about as much as top posting does. The scourge of mailing list slobs who are too lazy to trim their replies cuts across both camps. If I had to choose between a world where everyone mercilessly and neatly trimmed their mailing replies while posting both top and bottom, vs one where everyone bottom posted all the time but never trimmed the crap, I think I would prefer the former.
Dnia środa, 7 stycznia 2015 10:15:54 Seth pisze:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 02:21:42 -0800, Cathal Garvey
nevertheless find scrolling down to find replies inline irksome.
This is about the only point on this issues where I can agree with Cathal.
Bottom posting makes more sense to me but scrolling through pages of mangled cascading-80-character-wrapped-indented-reply garbage just to get to 'the meat' annoys me just about as much as top posting does. The scourge of mailing list slobs who are too lazy to trim their replies cuts across both camps.
This is why here in cold, cold Poland we have the "TCIOPS" acronym: "Tnij Cytaty I Odpowiadaj Pod Spodem". Meaning: "Cut quotes and reply below" -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147
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On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Cathal Garvey < cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
However, sorry, but I'll continue emailing as I always have done; if I come from a different internet culture to you, and if top-posting is anathema to you but not I, that's just
... lazy.
You know the history and reasons the internet has against top posting, especially on newgroups and mailing lists. You and everyone else top posting are just lazy culture at the expense/abuse of other people, in particular the brain power needed to decipher your messages in both direction and context. Stop wasting hundreds of other people's cycles and invest some of your own. Learn trimming and interleaving replies, google it, make your mail art, not dog shit.
(: shitter a as but asses lazy your to cost no it's all After. off else everyone pissing on keep, want all you what that's if But.
AFAIC there's nothing left to say, so you'll hear no more from me. Sorry, not something I especially like discussing nor seen discussing. I did enjoy writing the one-liner though. On 07/01/15 10:37, Mark Steward wrote:
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:07 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com <mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Cathal Garvey <cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me <mailto:cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me>> wrote: > > However, sorry, but I'll continue emailing as I always have done; if I > come from a different internet culture to you, and if top-posting is > anathema to you but not I, that's just
... lazy.
You know the history and reasons the internet has against top posting, especially on newgroups and mailing lists. You and everyone else top posting are just lazy culture at the expense/abuse of other people, in particular the brain power needed to decipher your messages in both direction and context. Stop wasting hundreds of other people's cycles and invest some of your own. Learn trimming and interleaving replies, google it, make your mail art, not dog shit.
(: shitter a as but asses lazy your to cost no it's all After. off else everyone pissing on keep, want all you what that's if But.
Hi all, I just wanted to say it's been a while since the last proper "no topposting" thread and I was getting worried. I se we're good. :) -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147
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