On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 20:19:52 +0000 coderman wrote:

see also: work he’s claiming credit for? - https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1197305715439751168

- https://twitter.com/hdevalence/status/1197280487674245120

yes, I see. You linked a bunch of feminazi cunts from the pentagon. What's your take on that sorf of non-human scum? The cunts you linked are obviouasly appelbaum's accomplices, who now have stabbed him on the back. That doesn't mean they are any better than him. They are actually marginally worse, still working directly for govcorp.

The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510] Part of me has been picking up posts on a few mailing lists that seem to echo known text written by him. Been wondering if they were trial balloons to see if anyone noticed. - https://twitter.com/virtadpt/status/1197313208865849344

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 11:13:32PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:

On 11/26/2019 01:58 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 20:19:52 +0000 coderman wrote:

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see also: work he’s claiming credit for? - https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1197305715439751168

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- https://twitter.com/hdevalence/status/1197280487674245120

yes, I see. You linked a bunch of feminazi cunts from the pentagon. What's your take on that sorf of non-human scum? The cunts you linked are obviouasly appelbaum's accomplices, who now have stabbed him on the back.

That doesn't mean they are any better than him. They are actually marginally worse, still working directly for govcorp.

Although I wouldn't harsh on them all so hard, the back stabbing is extreme. It's like they can't stand to see him contribute anywhere.

Oh but I would harsh on them. On the record, Applebaum ran the sole independent Tor directory authority (out of what was it, a dozen?). On the record, Applebaum was asked to hand over control of his Tor dir auth. On the record, Applebaum refused to comply with that "request". On the record, Applebaum was "publicly lynched and run out of town" (metaphorically speaking) and is to this day licking his wounds from the new Tor board which unilaterally replaced the old board and was instrumental in stabbing Applebaum in the back, and very publicly so. Now, if this public record (see Applebaum git docs collection git://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor ) is insufficient to dignify "being so harsh", I dunno what would be... And just so it's absolutely clear - by having the last independent dir auth be run by NSA/CIA/Tor Inc., there is no longer the option for any of us to jig up a custom local Tor setup that only relies on Applebaum's dir auth (possibly checking against other dir auths).

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The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510] Part of me has been picking up posts on a few mailing lists that seem to echo known text written by him. Been wondering if they were trial balloons to see if anyone noticed. - https://twitter.com/virtadpt/status/1197313208865849344

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvV5pFG0nqE """ US computer security activist and journalist Jacob Appelbaum spoke about his "political exile" in Europe and the surveillance he says he is under, as well as the consequences that quantum computers will have on encrypted data during a conference at LEFFEST'19 film festival in Sintra on Saturday. Appelbaum explained how he left the United States in 2013 for a business trip, during which the Snowden leaks began. "Because of this, I received not only legal advice but my own gut feeling and some sources in the intelligence community let me know now is not a good time to return to America," Appelbaum said, adding "it was essentially the beginning of what I would consider to be political exile." The internet activist also said he is under surveillance and talked about the impact it has on his mental health. "I still see actually several [therapists], you know, on a regular basis to talk about it. What's going on, how this affects my emotional state, how I have trouble focusing, how I have trouble sleeping, how when I hear creaks on the floor, like I wonder if this is the moment we're finally going to get raided." Appelbaum later touched on quantum computers, and explained that when that tool will be available, "all of the cryptography that is deployed today will be broken." Appelbaum was involved in the journalistic investigations of Wikileaks, the Snowden revelations and the cell phone monitoring of German Chancellor Angela Merkel by the US. He has been accused of sexual misconduct against activists in Berlin, but denies the allegations. """

On 11/27/19 9:27 AM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 23:13:32 -0700 Mirimir wrote:

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Although I wouldn't harsh on them all so hard, the back stabbing is extreme. It's like they can't stand to see him contribute anywhere. to be fair to appelbaum, the most likely reason why he suddenly went from 'freedom fighter' to 'rapist' according to the propaganda from his military handlers, is that appelabaum wasn't 100% loyal to the pentagon, unlike the cunts that coderman linked.

Turf war over where the funds went. torbrowser Security or 'User friendly GUI' and increased user base. He was on the security side. Purged by institutional slander. I doubt there's been one charge filed by an alleged victim. Rr

On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 17:51:45 +0000 coderman wrote:

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, November 29, 2019 4:10 PM, Razer wrote: ...

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Turf war over where the funds went. torbrowser Security or 'User friendly GUI' and increased user base.

He was on the security side. Purged by institutional slander. I doubt there's been one charge filed by an alleged victim.

look at the commits; ioerror had little to contribute security wise or code wise to Tor or tor. (Tor the org and tor the implementation)

the commits prove exactly nothing. Even a person who didn't code at all could favor 'security' over GUI bullshit and marketing. again, appelbaum was lynched because he didn't fully toe the pentagon's party line. The same party line that the feminazi cunts you previously linked do toe.

however there was and is friction between what Tor users want and what Tor Project Inc. funders pay for. this is the fundamental tension!

I notice how you conveniently leave out the tor turd themselves, syverson and accomplices. Also, it's not clear what the 'tor users' want since they are not an homogeneous or even half educated group.

if you look at some of the more interesting security innovations, like Tor on Qubes, Whonix, Tor-ramdisk, etc, they come outside of Tor Project because funders can't or won't cover these use cases.

those are funded by arpadarpa as well.

it's not a turf war when the contracts state up front what work is in scope.

it's not a turf war. It was just a member of the mafia who wasn't 100% loyal and so was thrown under the bus. By the way, anybody who isn't a total and complete fucktard should draw basic inferences regarding the nature of syverson, dingledine and accomplices based on the 'appelbaum affair'.

best regards,