Thanks so much Ceci, I will definitely stick around. I noticed in my previous email I misspelled Steganography, which is so funny because I'm always so particular about that. lol. Anyhow, there is always chaff with the wheat and I'd rather tolerate the trolls and have proper un-moderated freedom of conversation than to receive a curated list of what somebody else things is important and on topic. Your welcoming tone is very much appreciated. It's been a while since I did anything interesting (to me at least) in cryptography but it has been one of my life-long obsessions so I'm hear to learn and to get my mind thinking about these things again. Lately I've been working on some blockchain tech for business, just relaying payments and such for our clients, but I have a few ideas which I'll be introducing as they become more clear to me, and more practical for real world application. Nothing amazing so far, but I like the idea of contributing to the movement where I can. best regards, joe *Joseph Frazier* *Relentlessly Focused Action* On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Joseph Frazier <j0zffrazier@gmail.com> wrote:

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I'm fairly new, and I became aware of this list because of block-chain

tech,

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but I am a developer with a libertarian leaning philosophy. I've spent quite a lot of time in the subject of RnD on Cryptography with special emphasis in stenography. So I'm sure btc has not attracted all the wrong folks. Anyhow, the future has just begun and it might be just a tad too early to become fully jaded, but that's just my opinion. Figured I'd say hi :-) I'm curious as to what the different member's special interests are in regards to internet security. It would be good to hear about what people are working on or what they are interested in. -joe

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Hi, Joe! Hope you are doing good and having an amazing Friday night! :)

You probably get a really bad impression of this list. It is definitely not a "comfy heartwarming group", but don't be scared, please. There are amazing people here, I swear. <3

There is no formal moderation on this list. Please, always consider that freedom and autonomy are key cypherpunk values. Take in mind that people should be able to use good sense and self-moderation.

In the last case, we always can use lots and lots of filters to avoid trolls and their garbage in our inboxes. I filter out what I don't want. Several others do the same. I do not decide for others and I want absolutely no one to decide for me. :)

I strongly recommend you a moderated technical list for exchanging impressions about some cryptography subjects:

# The cryptography mailing list # cryptography@metzdowd.com # http://www.metzdowd.com/mailman/listinfo/cryptography

We have excellent security professionals and hackers of all colors of hats here, but most of them are lurking, dreaming and waiting for the return of the great old times of the CypherPunks list. ;)

Please, stay if you think you can change the list and make it better, not for the list itself, but for you, for other people. You already have a technical background and like to study. You can share your knowledge and will probably be contacted in public or private for others like you.

There are lots of trolls here, like Zenaan Harkness, whose most erotic fetish is saying "I should be raped again and killed this time", and other sweet private and public e-mails, always using ridiculous fake addresses, aff... But there are really good and interesting, f_cking awesome people here too. A bit silent at the moment, I admit, but they are still here, I swear. :)

So, my dear Joe, you can go, if you think it will be better for you. None of us can take this decision in your place, only you know your necessities and your limits. In this case, wish you good luck and success. Take care and be very happy! :)

In any case, you can choose read the messages in the list archive only, picking the titles, without receiving all the messy messages. If you need help, contact me in private. I'm always late with my personal messages (the professional ones are updated, I swear!), but I will answer soon or later. And you always can remember me if I become too much late with answers, hahaha!! ;D

Good night and sweet dreams, dear. Take care.

Ceci ------- "Don't let anyone rob you of your imagination, your creativity, or your curiosity. It's your place in the world; it's your life. Go on and do all you can with it, and make it the life you want to live." - Mae Jemison