On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:44:30AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 02:52:33PM +1000, James A. Donald wrote:

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On 2017-04-11 09:35, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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Horrific. Trigger warning.

* DISTURBING IMAGES: White Helmets BUSTED killing babies in PR stunt to start war in Syria http://theduran.com/warning-disturbing-images-white-helmets-busted-killing-b... White Helmets have been caught faking rescues and doctoring dead children.

moderate head choppers.

moderate head choppers.

Every time someone wants war with Russia, repeat "We must defend the moderate head choppers from the evil tyrant Assad"

After all, we have a duty to do good everywhere, including far away strangers.

Indeed, especially far away strangers. Pretty sure the parable of the good Samaritan was all about that.

Indeed, our devotion to far away strangers explains and excuses our failure to do good to friends, allies, lovers, and family. And they don't get stranger than the head choppers. You don't need to do right for your lover or your child, because you are going to adopt a black boy from Somalia as a fashion accessory and transition him to a girl.

The latest mini-docco, for those who "O M G, surely our government can't be murdering psychopathic criminals?":

https://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413cb3652f&id=e97aa0de20&e=5110f4b440 If You Know Anyone Who Still Thinks the White Helmets Are 'Heroes' – Show Them This 7 Minute Video

Chickens are coming home to roost my fellow humans living in America…

Looks like the existence of James Le Mesurier, White Helmets 'MI-6 co-founder' recently became a little too inconvenient for the Western regime change operation in Syria. Queue "greater Israel" aka Syria, troop surge or re-engagement or etc in 3 .. 2 .. White Helmets 'MI-6 Co-Founder' Found Dead In Turkey https://www.zerohedge.com/political/white-helmets-mi-6-co-founder-found-dead... ... Weeks after the Douma incident, Russian officials brought fifteen people to The Hague said to have been present, including 11-year-old Hassan Diab who was seen in a widely-distributed White Helmets video receiving "emergency treatment" in a local hospital after the alleged incident. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWaG3cQGURc [11-year-old Hassan Diab "Syrian" "chemical weapons attack" "victim":] "We were at the basement and we heard people shouting that we needed to go to a hospital. We went through a tunnel. At the hospital they started pouring cold water on me," said Diab, who was featured in the video which Russia's ambassador to the Netherlands says was staged. Others present during the filming of Diab's hospital "cleanup" by the White Helmets include hospital administrator Ahmad Kashoi, who runs the emergency ward. “There were people unknown to us who were filming the emergency care, they were filming the chaos taking place inside, and were filming people being doused with water. The instruments they used to douse them with water were originally used to clean the floors actually,” Ahmad Kashoi, an administrator of the emergency ward, recalled. “That happened for about an hour, we provided help to them and sent them home. No one has died. No one suffered from chemical exposure.” -RT Also speaking at The Hague was Halil al-Jaish, an emergency worker who treated people at the Douma hospital the day of the attack - who said that while some patients did come in for respiratory problems, they were attributed to heavy dust, present in the air after recent airstrikes, but that nobody showed signs of chemical warfare poisoning. According to the governor's office in Istanbul, "comprehensive administrative and judicial investigations" have been initiated into Le Mesurier's death. Perhaps he fell after an Assad operative spiked his tea with polonium, affecting his equilibrium. Whatever the case, it wouldn't surprise us if this becomes a pretext to 'liberate' Syria.

On 15/02/19 01:06, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

Zerowedgie:

BBC Producer's Syria Bombshell: Douma "Gas Attack" Footage "Was Staged" https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-14/bbc-shocks-douma-gas-attack-scene-...

If you read this in any detail at all, you will find that she says the gas attack really happened - just that some of the tv footage was staged. The cameras got there too late to record the real action, so they recreated some of it. Not good, and hiding it was somewhat reprehensible journalistically speaking; but not actually evil or even manipulative. Just some TV guys wanting to report a fucking horrific event as best (and probably as accurately) as they could. [...]

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** Michael Savage: complete “false flag in Syria.” No sarin gas, most likely phosgene gas http://theduran.com/michael-savage-complete-false-flag-in-syria-no-sarin-gas...

Oh wow, that's okay then. Only phosgene, not (gasp) sarin. Of course, it is far easier to make/get hold of phosgene (CG) than sarin (GB). It is far cheaper. It is also easier to weaponise [1]. IMO phosgene is a little nastier than sarin, though some of those knowing both would disagree. But practically speaking, there isn't a huge difference in nastiness. Weight-for-weight on an absorbed dose basis sarin is famously about 20-30 times more lethally toxic than phosgene. However on a quantity-used-in-an-actual-attack basis the comparison is more even, with sarin being only about three or four times as lethally toxic as phosgene. Incidentally, the vast majority of WW1 poison gas deaths were caused by phosgene, even though it was used infrequently compared to other agents like chlorine or mustards (the other agents could be seen or smelled or felt, and they terrified troops - phosgene just killed them almost unnoticed, with them dying in the next day or two; not as good from a military POV as phosgene doesn't terrify or incapacitate immediately). [1] Sarin is a liquid and has to be made into very small even droplets, and then clouds of these droplets must be spread around for maximum effect. Phosgene is a gas, which comes as a liquid under pressure; just open the cylinder and it spreads itself around.

On 19/02/19 01:27, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:27:49AM +0000, Peter Fairbrother wrote:

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On 15/02/19 01:06, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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Zerowedgie:

BBC Producer's Syria Bombshell: Douma "Gas Attack" Footage "Was Staged" https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-14/bbc-shocks-douma-gas-attack-scene-...

If you read this in any detail at all, you will find that she says the gas attack really happened - just that some of the tv footage was staged.

The cameras got there too late to record the real action, so they recreated some of it.

Not good, and hiding it was somewhat reprehensible journalistically speaking; but not actually evil or even manipulative.

Just some TV guys wanting to report a fucking horrific event as best (and probably as accurately) as they could.

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** Michael Savage: complete “false flag in Syria.” No sarin gas, most likely phosgene gas http://theduran.com/michael-savage-complete-false-flag-in-syria-no-sarin-gas...

Oh wow, that's okay then. Only phosgene, not (gasp) sarin.

Of course, it is far easier to make/get hold of phosgene (CG) than sarin (GB). It is far cheaper. It is also easier to weaponise [1].

IMO phosgene is a little nastier than sarin, though some of those knowing both would disagree. But practically speaking, there isn't a huge difference in nastiness.

Weight-for-weight on an absorbed dose basis sarin is famously about 20-30 times more lethally toxic than phosgene. However on a quantity-used-in-an-actual-attack basis the comparison is more even, with sarin being only about three or four times as lethally toxic as phosgene.

Incidentally, the vast majority of WW1 poison gas deaths were caused by phosgene, even though it was used infrequently compared to other agents like chlorine or mustards (the other agents could be seen or smelled or felt, and they terrified troops - phosgene just killed them almost unnoticed, with them dying in the next day or two; not as good from a military POV as phosgene doesn't terrify or incapacitate immediately).

[1] Sarin is a liquid and has to be made into very small even droplets, and then clouds of these droplets must be spread around for maximum effect. Phosgene is a gas, which comes as a liquid under pressure; just open the cylinder and it spreads itself around.

Point is, there is zero evidence that Assad or Russia was behind -any- chemical "gassing attack" of any syrian people as per the media reports.

I don't see the benefit of clouding the fundamental here...

The known fundamentals are: there have been stories of gas attacks for years. There was at least one actual gas attack. It was assumably phosgene. Three guesses as to who did it: Russia, a "false flag", Assad? I doubt it was Russia, though it might have been. If Russia since Putin hadn't made several exotic attacks on civilian ex-spies, billionaires and militants in the UK, and messed around with longstanding defense treaties, I'd have said it almost certainly wasn't Russia; but nowadays it just might have been a Russian provocation against the US - I kind-of doubt they had any military need to do it. But no, it doesn't make a lot of sense politically afaics, so for now I'll leave it at "it probably wasn't Russia". A false flag? By who - the US? Sorry, I don't believe that for a minute. Not that there wouldn't be people there who would do it, but that they would not want to be seen to, and security on things like that is a bitch - one thing the Yanks have learned is that the cover-up can kill you. Plus they haven't taken advantage of it as a casus belli. So no, not the Yanks. A false flag by the white hats, or some other rebels? I'd have thought that they could organise it better, for one - an actual attack, but with phosgene (which degrades quickly into hard-to-determine-the-origin-of fragments) rather than eg Sarin, whose byproducts are traceable for much longer? They chose the wrong agent. Plus of course they couldn't get newsies into position until after both the attack and its immediate aftermath was over? But the whole point of a false-flag attack would be publicity. So no, it almost certainly wasn't the white hats/rebels (unless it was inter-rebel action, in which case all bets are off - but afaict that doesn't seem to be the case). Which leaves Assad. Morally he'd definitely do it, in a trice, and I'd guess he would turn a blind eye. The choice of phosgene is good for him too, short-acting so forensic proof of an attack would be harder to come by. Phosgene would be readily available in the requisite quantities to a State like Syria. Plus, he is a bit short of conventional bombs anyway. Qui bono? Publicity-wise, the US and/or rebels might benefit, but neither have taken advantage of it, to the extent even that the US is disbenefitted and looks weak. The rebels don't seem to have benefitted any either, though I concede they might have expected to. Militarily, of course, pretty much only the Assad regime benefits. So Assad gets Most Likely To. And after all, Someone did it.